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Re: Latest Airbus single aisle aircraft innovations

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Post by eddof13 »

iSnow wrote: post #30
mrtksn wrote: post #8

Maybe its due to the lessons learned, the extreme conservatism in air travel should be up to a disruption. It's nice that they make blue light to look like the sky but: 1) The windows are disappointing. This is, I think, due to the fatigue caused by large rectangular windows that previously caused a disaster but it begs for improvement. A way to make large windows or get rid of all the windows and use very high defin…

> Automate the pilot out. That's a complete non-starter for now and the next decades. Fully automated operation for 1-dimensional transport (trains) is a solved issue, for 2D, not so much and most certainly not for 3D. Even though modern planes are very reliable, too many things can go wrong during flight to leave it to a machine - and for what? Just for bragging rights?

good luck getting most people into a pilotless aircraft as well- there is at least an incentive for the pilots to stay alive

Re: Latest Airbus single aisle aircraft innovations

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Post by sharkotter »

yongjik wrote: post #97
cwmma wrote: post #32

Is there a term for a product which is really only really for a minority of it's users? Air travel seems like this as most airlines and manufacturers seem to bend over backwards for their wealthy and high margin passengers and basically treat economy class as "fine I guess we'll throw the rest of you in the back" Mobile games seem the apotheosis of this as a lot of games are really about finding whales and any enjoym…

> Air travel seems like this as most airlines and manufacturers seem to bend over backwards for their wealthy and high margin passengers and basically treat economy class as ... You got it backwards. If economy passengers preferred better services to cheaper fare, they would have chosen airlines with better services, and airlines would have to adapt accordingly, offering better and more expensive services. They can't…

Some of us are saying "Fuck it. I have money and want to fit in my seat"

Re: Latest Airbus single aisle aircraft innovations

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Post by asdff »

neonstatic wrote: post #64
asdff wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get the griping with the reclining. I see it all over reddit and here. Never in real life. It has never affected my life in the least bit to have someone in the seat ahead of me recline their seat. It doesn't affect knee room at all. You lose what maybe 3 inches of dead air space if that at the top of their seat.

It's only dead space if you are not using it. I like to open my laptop and place it on the tray. When the person in front reclines, I am forced to sit still for the duration of the flight. I usually fly from Europe to Asia, so 10-12 hours.

I'd be baffled if that actually stops you from using a laptop. The seat hardly moves. And the tray slides forward a bit too.

Re: Latest Airbus single aisle aircraft innovations

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Post by alistairSH »

whyagaindavid wrote: post #87
alistairSH wrote: post #31

We flew from IAD to DUB on Aer Lingus a month ago. Outbound was an A321neo LR/XLR and it was not bad at all. Legroom was fine (for me at 5'7"), big overhead bins should be required these days, and the entertainment setup was passable. The only complaint was flaky seat-back trays that required a real SLAM to latch. The damn things were constantly dropping down, getting slammed back not quite hard enough, and falling a…

All these 2-4-2 are 20 year old aircrafts - seats are not slim. so less legroom. Airlines don't retrofit.

The -300s in use by Aer Lingus are a bit newer than that (but the 200s they use for west coast routes are in fact ~20 years old), but not by much. IAG has orders for 21 A330Neos, which, I believe, retain the 2-4-2 layout in economy.

Re: Latest Airbus single aisle aircraft innovations

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Post by vlovich123 »

rconti wrote: post #20
vlovich123 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally your body can only adjust 1 hour per day (varies by direction of travel). So shifting at the start of your travel is a bit late. You probably want to shift gradually a few days before travel if it’s a major shift.

But that argues equally strongly for what the parent suggests in terms of flight meal/sleep timing.

Not really - if anything it argues against. You have no control or information about who did and didn’t start shifting when and people may be connecting from another flight and have different jet lag differentials to begin with. Serving it on the destination time is probably the best, but if someone hasn’t started shifting, they’ll be a hungry and cranky passenger vs you being cranky and tired after you’ve left the plane and you’re not the airline’s problem.

Re: Latest Airbus single aisle aircraft innovations

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Post by interloxia »

mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #17
neonstatic wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since we are voicing seat related complaints, I want seats that don't recline. I don't want that asshole in front of me ruining my flight again.

You could consider sitting in an exit row. The seats in front of that row are typically prohibited from reclining in order not to block the exit. Or you can sit behind a bulkhead.

Up to about 15 years ago, Sure. Now you're mostly out of luck unless you pay.

Re: Latest Airbus single aisle aircraft innovations

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Post by interloxia »

FergusArgyll wrote: post #16
neonstatic wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since we are voicing seat related complaints, I want seats that don't recline. I don't want that asshole in front of me ruining my flight again.

I don't get this attitude. The seats are meant to recline, as soon as takeoff is finished I recline. If you want more space, you should too.

The back reclines. The bum and legs don't move. My knees usually only just fit. When someone reclines their seat usually presses on my knees. Those few cm matter.

Sometimes the seat design is such that my knees block the recline. If I'm unlucky it sucks.

Re: Latest Airbus single aisle aircraft innovations

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Post by interloxia »

wat10000 wrote: post #88
gib444 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which two airlines have substantially different products for a $5 difference? If you didn't mean literally $5 perhaps you can give us some real examples of cost differences? Personally I find so little difference between airlines in economy these days. And Premium Economy is nowhere close to a '$5' difference long haul these days

They don't, because competition erases those differences. It's a very competitive market. If people were willing to pay a little extra for a few more inches of seat pitch in economy, you'd have an airline that offered a few more inches of seat pitch in economy with slightly higher fares.

They do? It's a common upsell for 50-100ish per flight leg.

Re: Latest Airbus single aisle aircraft innovations

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Post by neonstatic »

asdff wrote: post #103
neonstatic wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's only dead space if you are not using it. I like to open my laptop and place it on the tray. When the person in front reclines, I am forced to sit still for the duration of the flight. I usually fly from Europe to Asia, so 10-12 hours.

I'd be baffled if that actually stops you from using a laptop. The seat hardly moves. And the tray slides forward a bit too.

Well, you'd be baffled then. When the seat in front is reclined, I can't open the lid fully or even well enough. I've tried.

Re: Latest Airbus single aisle aircraft innovations

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Post by 7jjjjjjj »

FireBeyond wrote: post #72
dingaling wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Premium Economy is so much more expensive than steerage class that it's not a realistic 'option' for the majority of potential passengers. > " OK well you made your choice...." The only choice for most people is "fly cheap" or "don't go".

Flying LAX to SYD and return in Delta Premium Select, at least 30 of the 40 seats wer empty, despite economy being full. I was curious about this, and learned that Delta had made a decision to largely stop bumping passengers up in many cases because they felt that they were passengers who would have paid for PS, but it had gotten to the point of passengers taking their chances ("I'll buy a Comfort Plus ticket, that u…

If you don't have a carry on, just get up and move. The flight crew has better things to do than check if you're in your assigned seat.
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