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Re: Don't Take the Black Pill [video]

#61

I really enjoyed this. This talk contains a powerful message of optimism, possibility, agency and power that resonates strongly with me. Computers and technology are force multipliers for humanity. As coders, we are lucky to be gifted with such high agency and global reach, all at a fairly affordable price tag. I love computers.

I loved the talk as well. The recommended music video by Ninajirachi was really cool as well! Have a good day fellow computer enjoyer :)

Re: Don't Take the Black Pill [video]

#63
I didn't find any of the arguments for optimism compelling, even if I wanted to agree with the talk's message.

Free software is about the worst example, as it has inadvertently built the technology that has, more than any other, concentrated corporate power and debased the profession.

Re: Don't Take the Black Pill [video]

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, if you are that picky, then you will have to wait. MD5 was created in 1991, the first collision was found in 2004.

You want to pick a date and make a bet?

You are the one discarding every date. I'll take the opposite bet: it will eventually happen, on some date.

Re: Don't Take the Black Pill [video]

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You want to pick a date and make a bet?

You are the one discarding every date. I'll take the opposite bet: it will eventually happen, on some date.

I haven't discarded any date. Pick one, and an amount to bet!

Re: Don't Take the Black Pill [video]

#66
The comments here indicate a surprisingly, in my view, mixed reception, for such an unambiguously good talk?

The main thrust is simple:

- Technology is not good or bad, it is an amplifier of human values and our collective ambitions.

- Those of us who are terrified of where technology is going are actually terrified that humans are, on the net, bad, and technology will amplify that, bringing about dystopia.

- Believing this this is self-fulfilling. By embracing such beliefs you surrender your agency, which is what actually brings about dystopia. If you, instead, have a positive vision of humanity, then you are one of the people that drives society forwards rather than backwards.

We are currently at a moment in history where this message bears repeating.

A lot of things feel unstable, and as a result we have an opportunity to redefine the world in good ways and bad ones. Those who choose to redefine it in ways that are intractably bad will often do so from the point of view of a system observer, not a system participant. This is cope, because in reality everyone, whether they choose to accept it or not, is a system participant.

Re: Don't Take the Black Pill [video]

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post #35

> “I almost fell into this trap (...) I was raised by conservative Christian parents and thereby had so, so much to learn, and unlearn, in order to date comfortable and confidently. Is this engagement bait? Is this a cultural critique? What is meant to be said here? At any rate, this is the kind of speech which will alienate a lot of people. Look, I'm more on the progressive end of things, I get it, but I think this…

This not a rare thing to express. There are a lot of people raised under conservative Christian environments who have spent a considerable amount of time recovering from this. It is not surprising that they feel the need to express something of the journey that has dominated much of their early life. Taylor Tomlinson puts much of this into her comedy. She often asks the audience to call out if they were similarly scr…

"an ideology that will not seek consensus with his values"

This just seems normal and expected.

Kids are raised by their parents. Parents try to impart their wisdom on their kids, often in the form of rules meant to protect them. These rules are necessarily over restrictive due to simplification during various ages. These rules are also out of date with the new generation.

It's always a right of passage for children to find their own values and how they align with ideologies they have experienced or discovered in the world. And kids thinking their parents messed them up is really just an expression of value mismatch.

Re: Don't Take the Black Pill [video]

#68

> “I almost fell into this trap (...) I was raised by conservative Christian parents and thereby had so, so much to learn, and unlearn, in order to date comfortable and confidently. Is this engagement bait? Is this a cultural critique? What is meant to be said here? At any rate, this is the kind of speech which will alienate a lot of people. Look, I'm more on the progressive end of things, I get it, but I think this…

He changed what he says his values are when dating women, to make dating woman easier for himself. Why he mentioned it, I don't know. He holds IMHO strange views on internet culture and portrays it as morally superior to not be part of any group mentioned; PUA/any forum/Christianity as a whole. A strange introduction for a software talk.

Re: Don't Take the Black Pill [video]

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post #19

So in case you're worried about watching a 35 minute video and wishing you hadn't, here is what I think is an interesting observation that the speaker starts coming around to at around the 7 minute mark. Why does software suck? Management often has other priorities, and isn't interested in doing the hard work required to increase the reliability and reduce the technical debt in software. Engineers who care about such…

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Re: Don't Take the Black Pill [video]

#70
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are the one discarding every date. I'll take the opposite bet: it will eventually happen, on some date.

I haven't discarded any date. Pick one, and an amount to bet!

> OK, produce a SHA-2 collision.

- Why a collision?

> Because man made SHA-2, so it must be breakable. I don't dispute that there are systems humans make that are breakable (that would be weird given my career).

Thus implying there are man-made systems that are not breakable, and furthermore SHA-2 is one of them.

> I haven't discarded any date.

Going back so quickly?

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