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Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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I think you wanted the opportunity to beat that “healthy culture of resistance” drum. Every tweaker, every inbred, every starved person acting out of desperation is Rosa Parks now. You name things and decide that‘s “resistance”. People break the law because there’s no real consequence or because they just have nothing to lose. They’re not “resisting”, they’re surviving. The US society decided that a large class of pe…

>Ah, ok. So not “a healthy culture of resistance” but more “desperation because the country made sure that’s driving them”. This is logical fallacy, but you've tried hard to pull a gotcha out of it. Resisting because you are desperate is perfectly valid and doesn't create a contradiction. It's not something reserved to "those who can afford a good lawyer." Desperation is one of the hardest drivers of resistance, not…

Resistance is a choice. “No other choice” is just surviving. The gotcha was already in the fact that you started by proudly waving a flag of “healthy culture of resistance” and immediately switched to desperate people having no other options. The healthy culture of resistance as you see it is made of the most desperate and dilapidated people doing desperate things.

My “very example” about which you are now quoting Wikipedia to me was resistance, not desperation. It wasn't a tweaker selling $5 crack because he literally has nothing better to look forward to. It wasn’t a mother driving without a license because she couldn’t afford the court taxes for a few traffic tickets. It was a woman who did it out of principle alone. That’s resistance, and it’s rare. Your speech fell on its face as soon as you had your big boy proud moment because you’re missing something important to back it up [0]. You were never taught enough pst that proud song and dance.

If you thought calling you privileged for your dissonant and ignorant line of argumentation is racist then let me add not educated enough[0] too. Read a book to understand these concepts, don’t expect you can just throw words around and people will bow to your wisdom. You make it impossible for me to take you seriously when you make junior level confusions like “resistance” and “desperation” all for a shitty national pride moment.

Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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Japan has no trash cans. (reaction to the japanese subway attacks) Returning to the US from japan you notice. Japanese bathrooms don't have trash cans, so no paper towels. In the US, the bathrooms have trash cans overflowing with paper towel waste and it is quite a difference.

One thing I noticed is that I tended to accumulate a lot of trash in Japan. Connivence stores were plentiful and the food was tasty, but it was all wrapped in plastic. Where does all the trash go? More often than not, I ended up carrying trash in a backpack to throw away at my hotel.

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Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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But that did save lives; I was able to know my family had Covid before the symptoms showed up. Happened with a lot of other people too.

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Fwiw what you are describing is literally survivorship bias.

Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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So what happens if you have a flight that gets diverted to India and they search your bags and find a satellite phone?

Same thing that happens whenever your flight gets diverted to South Korea and you have condoms, or Indonesia and you have legal weed, or to Australia and you have a pineapple. Which is that it depends on the mood of the person in charge. Either you get to keep it, or it's confiscated and destroyed, or you go to jail, or you go to a firing squad. We can guess which is more likely in each country. Indonesia almost alwa…

>your flight gets diverted to South Korea and you have condoms

..what? Condoms are not outlawed there, are they?

Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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Hilariously (darkly), during the pandemic, the very same reason is why the very same administrators were hell-bent on forcing Bluetooth-always-on contact tracing on the whole country's smartphone-carrying population. (edit: viz. that forcible peer-to-peer bluetooth networking works. One man's unrestricted mass-surveillance is another person's "terrorist activity". Oh how the turntables turn and turn.)

But that did save lives; I was able to know my family had Covid before the symptoms showed up. Happened with a lot of other people too.

If they had administered properly people wouldn't have been to the streets and spread the virus in the first place!

Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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> the app enables communication even during network restrictions and creates a substantial risk of misuse by anti-national elements, terrorist organisations, organised criminal groups and cyber criminals seeking to evade lawful detection and continue communication despite legally imposed restrictions. This mouthful boils down to exactly this: a form of communication not controlled by the government creates a risk for…

> Sorry for pointing out the obvious, but if your country's safety depends on ability to block all forms of private person to person messages, your government has failed in one of its primary goals: providing safety for its citizens.

Sorry for pointing out the obvious, but "providing safety for its citizens" is not, has never been, and never will be a "goal" of any government on this planet.

Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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If your country's security depends on someone on the internet taking their product off for the whole world something must be wrong with the people in power. This is censorship and suppression at its peak.

Fun fact: They have deployed facial recognition vans, AI smart glasses and illegally tracking the protesters (most of which are students) without their consent to threaten and deter them.

Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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Honestly no idea what I’d do if I were in government. Originally you’d communicate by mail and they could get a warrant. The day encrypted comms showed up, they wouldn’t just want to give up. If you love the encryption but hate the terrorism, what to do? Double down on old school / physical surveillance? (Obviously not my field)

Yes, exactly that. Tons of crime is committed using only in-person communication. Should we all have microphones in our homes? Do detective work, flip sources, follow the money.

We do though? They're called Alexa, and LG TVs.

Remember, the terms of service for your LG TV say you have to warn visitors to you house they're being eavesdropped.

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