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Asked Codex to redesign a page; it pushed my repo to OpenAI infra

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Re: Asked Codex to redesign a page; it pushed my repo to OpenAI infra

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>Treat the repo you point it at as already leaked I don't mean this to downplay your experience, and I agree it should be opt-in by default, but any software engineer using these tools should understand completely that in order to 'read' your repo it needs to copy it all to the provider's servers. Using anything short of a local model has ALWAYS been a complete leak.

I think the sane take here is that if you let loose a coding agent in a project, you should assume it can read everything, because at any point it can issue a read tool command to read arbitrary file. If you want to be selective in what you share, a coding harness is probably a bad tool for the job. That said, AI companies still shouldn't be intentionally building features that upload code wholesale because it betray…

You could definitely tighten a harness to an extent that a coding agent would only be able to read files that you directly give as context.

But the truth is, much of the utility of the model is allowing it to grep across the codebase and explore for context.

I have great interest in zero knowledge inference, but as far as we know, it is difficult to build any sort of efficient representation.

Re: Asked Codex to redesign a page; it pushed my repo to OpenAI infra

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Wow and then it wrote an article about it and posted it to HN too!

yes - I used claude to reason about the jsonml file -redact personal information and also to write big chunks of this - I mean if you aren't using a coding agent - you are a dinosaur anyways.

Re: Asked Codex to redesign a page; it pushed my repo to OpenAI infra

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Why? Why do people submit content for our reading when it is not their words? Does it give legitimacy to them? Does it push an agenda? Does it make you look professional? Is this for some kind of executive or boss? "The part I have to be Fair about" "Why it did this", "Why this should bother you", "honest framing", ... The things you are doing differently are not legitimate guardrails either. An AI article warrants A…

sure enough - feedback well received. My intention was to share what I found with the community, I did not think so far ahead. Apologies brother. I will restore the original version and remove the edits AI made.

Re: Asked Codex to redesign a page; it pushed my repo to OpenAI infra

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> Codex did surface permission prompts for the add, commit, and push. It didn't run them fully invisibly. So — didn't I approve this? Operator error exists with or without AI. Installing any dev tool that could exfiltrate your information means you are responsible for securing your environment. Use a devcontainer. You can find starting examples on the official claude code and codex github repos. Configuring a firewal…

I am only blocking their .git server - rest of the services will remain functionable depending on how you would block the server

Re: Asked Codex to redesign a page; it pushed my repo to OpenAI infra

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post #12

>Treat the repo you point it at as already leaked I don't mean this to downplay your experience, and I agree it should be opt-in by default, but any software engineer using these tools should understand completely that in order to 'read' your repo it needs to copy it all to the provider's servers. Using anything short of a local model has ALWAYS been a complete leak.

I think the sane take here is that if you let loose a coding agent in a project, you should assume it can read everything, because at any point it can issue a read tool command to read arbitrary file. If you want to be selective in what you share, a coding harness is probably a bad tool for the job. That said, AI companies still shouldn't be intentionally building features that upload code wholesale because it betray…

Lovely example - Thank you for sharing this.

Re: Asked Codex to redesign a page; it pushed my repo to OpenAI infra

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post #22

Wow and then it wrote an article about it and posted it to HN too!

yes - I used claude to reason about the jsonml file -redact personal information and also to write big chunks of this - I mean if you aren't using a coding agent - you are a dinosaur anyways.

Doesn't mean I want to read yet another "honest take".

Re: Asked Codex to redesign a page; it pushed my repo to OpenAI infra

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Wow and then it wrote an article about it and posted it to HN too!

I think the cringey "honest" thing is a Claude fingerprint, or did OAI also jump on the honesty train?

ChatGPT is also very honest.

Re: Asked Codex to redesign a page; it pushed my repo to OpenAI infra

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>Treat the repo you point it at as already leaked I don't mean this to downplay your experience, and I agree it should be opt-in by default, but any software engineer using these tools should understand completely that in order to 'read' your repo it needs to copy it all to the provider's servers. Using anything short of a local model has ALWAYS been a complete leak.

It doesn’t “need” to “copy it all”. Of course it has to (temporarily) send necessary code, but the coding agents I use have never just gone and read the entire repo from the first prompt. The whole thing doesn’t even fit in the context window. I get what you’re saying about how you’re inherently trusting them by using their LLMs, but it’s different from pushing up the entire repo and git history to some server I didn…

Getting a copy of everyone's code bases is part of the ai business. Use it for training, see what ideas people are developing to either copy or know where to invest. The list goes on. All to be fully monitized later on. No different than Facebook scooping up everyone's personal information.
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