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Re: Codeberg Divides

#91

Post by mariusor »

qweqwe14 wrote: post #50
gregdaniels421 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't seem like a great take on this. You seem to be implying that only unemployed people choose not to use AI, and anything that doesn't use AI is a useless toy project. There were decades of software written before modern LLMs, and a lot of people choose to hand write their software as a form of maintaining their skill. Just like people practice martial arts even though we have guns. If you reflect on your w…

> Just like people practice martial arts even though we have guns. The whole point of martial arts is the art itself. The point of software isn't the process of creating software (it was never about that), it's the end result, and all people care about is that the end result is good. And if you don't like that, you can choose another industry.

> The point of software isn't the process of creating software (it was never about that), it's the end result

Just because you think that, it does not make it so.

Re: Codeberg Divides

#95

Post by philipwhiuk »

> There are serious questions about copyright, labor, energy use, slop, and maintainers drowning in generated contributions. But these tools are also becoming part of how software is made.

This first sentence is such a weasel-acknowledgement that is used to just effectively ignore all of it.

Re: Codeberg Divides

#96

Post by ChrisArchitect »

Related:

Codeberg bans vibe coded projects

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49003386

Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49015588

Protecting our FLOSS commons from LLMs

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49015635

I regret migrating to Codeberg

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49021856

Re: Codeberg Divides

#98

Post by jmull »

It seems to me, Codeberg sees no value in AI slop and doesn't want to spend significant amounts of its limited resources hosting it.

The author talks a lot about what they want from Codeberg. And I suppose it's fine to wish someone (on the right side of the ocean) would provide services, tailored to your personal desires, for free. But don't be surprised when no one takes you up on it.

For myself, I don't see a point to Codeberg simply being a clone of GitHub. GitHub is free, which is great, but it's also pretty shitty. Why do we need more of that?

Re: Codeberg Divides

#99

Post by cdrnsf »

This decision is consistent with the community Codeberg has attracted of late. It's smaller, independent and takes stances that are not in line with competitors like GitHub. If you want something less reliable, at larger scale and filled with AI projects that GitHub is clearly encouraging, you should use GitHub.

Re: Codeberg Divides

#100

Post by cesarb »

> I wish Codeberg were more forward-looking here: willing to host the Open Source software of tomorrow, not only software made in the ways its community approves of today.

Is "vibe-coded software" really going to be the "Open Source software of tomorrow"? The opinion stated in the blog post announcing this change is the opposite:

"We believe that LLMs endanger the free/libre software ecosystem as a whole." and this is expanded in more detail later in that blog post (starting at the "Collaboration at danger" section).

This reeks of the same FOMO strategy seen often in cryptocurrency projects (which, unsurprisingly, have also been banned from Codeberg at the same time): stating that their way is going to be the future, and that those who don't follow it will be left behind ("have fun staying poor").

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