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IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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Iran also isn't hitting Israel because they know Israel will go after Tehran and the regime more directly. They were the ones to target the Basij police, industrial and steel plants, government buildings etc. America is mostly constraining itself to bombing the coast and military assets, with a focus on the strait. That plus most of Iran's attacks on Israel didn't do anything and likely still won't. Which is why Iran…

I would be worried about staying in the Jumeirah Burj Al Arab, these days. I suspect that Iran knows that going after Dubai would upset a lot of American (and Sunni) billionaires.

UAE paid Iran billions of dollars to halt strikes: Report - https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uae-paid-iran-billions-do... .

Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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The Israelis are the only ones that can, and want, to strike back. Besides no one weeps for missiles falling on Israeli cities, so that doesn’t serve the Iranians at all. Lots of much softer targets for Iranian missiles which can’t do anything to Iran.

Forgive the uninformed question, but doesn't Saudi Arabia also have significant armed forces? Given that Iran has closed the Straights of Hormuz and attacked several other Arab states, and has conducted strikes in Saudia Arabia itself, wouldn't that give Saudia Arabia a solid reason to strike back?

Iran has threatened to attack Saudi oil infrastructure if the Saudis join the Israel-American war on Iran. The Iran War Is Destroying Something More Valuable Than Oil - https://houseofsaud.com/iran-war-refinery-crisis-saudi-aramc... As it has become clear that the US missile defence shield over Saudi Arabia is inadequate (as the US can't provide enough interceptors), the Saudis have decided to be cautious.

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Was there really no other source than "houseofsaud.com" here? Seems like a strange source to be promoting on HackerNews. Their About, Contact, and Press pages don't even work. I can not find who owns this publication. I don't see them listed on https://mediabiasfactcheck.com either, which is usually a red flag for me. For example you can find other suspicious sources - like Iran International - on there https://media…

Don't forget the instant dickover. I lasted two seconds post load before I hit back.

Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be worried about staying in the Jumeirah Burj Al Arab, these days. I suspect that Iran knows that going after Dubai would upset a lot of American (and Sunni) billionaires.

UAE paid Iran billions of dollars to halt strikes: Report - https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uae-paid-iran-billions-do... .

Danegeld!

Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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Was there really no other source than "houseofsaud.com" here? Seems like a strange source to be promoting on HackerNews. Their About, Contact, and Press pages don't even work. I can not find who owns this publication. I don't see them listed on https://mediabiasfactcheck.com either, which is usually a red flag for me. For example you can find other suspicious sources - like Iran International - on there https://media…

> Their About, Contact, and Press pages don't even work.

The whole website seems to have issues, probably because of AWS issues in the middle-east. But archived pages are available:

- About: https://web.archive.org/web/20260719174647/https://houseofsa...

- Contact: https://web.archive.org/web/20260328195438/https://houseofsa...

Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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Isn't an AWS region comprised of at least three data centers "many kilometers apart" [1]? So, if the whole of me-south-1 (Bahrain) went down it means at least three buildings many kilometers apart must have been attacked. [1] https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/regio...

See also - Bahrain Held the Data — Riyadh Held the Vision - https://houseofsaud.com/aws-bahrain-vision-2030-irgc/

Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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What are alternatives. You can't change from inside and you can't change from the outside.

Ground troops have to invade Iran. Trump can't do that now because of upcoming midterm elections. After the elections, if there is no other way then Trump has to send ground troops in.

If you thought Afghanistan was a disaster, Iran would be at least 10 times worse.

Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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What are alternatives. You can't change from inside and you can't change from the outside.

Why do we think it's our job to intervene in other countries like this? And if we wanted to help another country, working with the international community should be the only approach we take. We've spent many decades overthrowing countries to what end? Even our vassals like Israel have universal healthcare while we're all in debt because of healthcare. It's not working and needs to stop.

It comes down to the simple reality that "I am because we are" and as such any time a human being is oppressed we are all oppressed.

One could make the argument the people who live in liberal democracies have an obligation to help those who unfortunately do not and who are still forced to live under autocratic oppression.

There were periods in history where most people lived under the thumb of some sort of autocrat of one form or another be they monarchs or religious leaders. Most people had very few human rights and had little opportunity for self-determination. Through the hard work of revolutionaries around the world many of those autocrats were deposed and others seeing the writing on the wall offered power to the people more willingly.

Think of it like a jailbreak where the jailer is oppressive and everyone in the jail is innocent. On your wait out should help open the cells of as many people as you can if only out of your own self interest because a larger mob escaping gives each individual a better chance to escape due to strength in numbers but also because it's just the right thing to do.

It's sort of the same thing here, Our ancestors (or even some of us) got out from under the thumb of an autocrat jailer but there are still others in that jail. If we don't help them who will? What would you want someone else to do if you were in their situation? To walk by an unjustly imprisoned person's jail cell and not free them when it is trivial to do so makes you the jailer.

Now that's the theory. In practice, I agree with much of what you're saying -- reality is a far trickier place than we'd like and the details make doing the right thing difficult if not impossible. And that doesn't cover the reality that western democracies are imperfect themselves and that many of their citizens are still subject to repression by their own autocratic leaning leaders, and so that we can't always do the right thing, but we should at least aspire to.

Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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I feel for both, people who where hosting there not expecting this war and this attack and the attackers, because they didn't attack just because they wanted but attacked as a response as stated earlier. Winner: US military industrial complex + Israel Losers: Everyone else

Please explain how attacking a civilian data center in an uninvolved country is a "response".

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