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Re: Codeberg Divides

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Post by arjie »

There’s a lot of hue and cry over what’s just Yet Another Bulletin Board because it has a git repo attached? Just host this stuff yourself guys. It’s trivial these days.

I have my own remotes with my own CI and it’s all ultrafast because I can just make assumptions about the way I write software.

None of these platforms are necessary for development. Just take from them what you want and build your own universe. This grade of CRUD software is generally solved.

There are places you need other people. Stuff like ffmpeg or GPU kernels. But other kinds of code is kind of unimportant. Not being part of this community loses you nothing.

Re: Codeberg Divides

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Post by zahlman »

free_bip wrote: post #21

I think this move by Codeberg is lowkey genius. They're trying to build a community based on a set of shared values. Those who disagree with those values are now self-selecting out of the Codeberg community, which is exactly the point of passing these kinds of resolutions. The fact that the rule is open for interpretation means that they can effectively shut down malicious actors (i.e those who intentionally misrepre…

> There's no issue with this. This isn't the supreme court. Your income is not on the line. It's a code hosting repository. Go to GitHub if it bothers you.

Codeberg is best known as a place for people to go when they're fed up with GitHub. People who are fine with GitHub's various issues wouldn't be looking at Codeberg in the first place, as far as I can tell.

There is GitLab, though. And Forgejo and a bunch of others.

Re: Codeberg Divides

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Post by kay_o »

I don't understand why people are referring to Codeberg as competitors, or going to competition. They're WANTING you to go back => GitHub and consume the GitHub's resource's if you do not conform to their traditionalist nonprofit view.

They are not trying to retain you as a customer or even have customers ! They do not advertise ...! I am a [relatively responsible] utilisateur of AI and I truly do not understand the entitlement of some people.

It is a nonprofit, the vast majority of people complaining are not voters, donators, or members, while the vast majority of nonprofit members have chosen this view.

Re: Codeberg Divides

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Post by inejge »

card_zero wrote: post #74
pferde wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, that's exactly it. Now please go back to your githubs and leave us nerds who do not matter alone. We'll be fine, we promise!

It's balkanization! We'll be Montenegro, you can have Moldova.

One out of two isn't catastrophic, but dear gods, wouldn't it be nice if people consulted the map instead of going off by the vibes. Poor Moldova, it got roped into the Balkans just by being a small impoverished country in the general neighborhood.

Re: Codeberg Divides

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Post by jjouett »

Its a choice they're totally allowed to make, I just wish we'd get an updated mission statement[1]:

"The mission of Codeberg e.V. is to build and maintain a free collaboration platform for creating, archiving, and preserving code and to document its development process."

Amended to include at the end ", as long as you use the tools we find agreeable."

[1]: https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/what-is-codeberg/

Re: Codeberg Divides

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Post by mariusor »

aliasxneo wrote: post #60
free_bip wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems like a completely different concern than what you originally stated? You're not worried about future policies, you're worried about the policy that was just passed. And for what it's worth, it seems like they only care if the project is directly crypto related (e.g if you had a repo directly implementing a Monero node, that would probably not be allowed). If it's just a repo that implements a generic Crypt…

> That seems like a completely different concern than what you originally stated? I started with a hypothetical. Then I used an actual real-world example. I have 100+ repos on GitHub spanning a wide array of technologies. If I moved all 100+ over, how do I know I won't fall afoul of whatever the community votes to ban next? The point is Codeberg isn't a good fit for my situation which needs more continuity and less s…

Have you considered actually asking someone at Codeberg about your cryptography project?

Re: Codeberg Divides

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Post by frangonf »

I am a heavy viber that uses a lot of resources in github now after LLMs compared with pre-LLMs for my personal projects.

I find great that there are places that are still human first and sensible about community and free software instead of just providing technical infra. Gitlab and Gitea are already open Github alternatives: open source core projects turned open sourcish business with free as in beer plans that get monetized with user data, loss leadering, business offerings and other sassy business models. Codeberg is deciding to not be that. Other projects can decide different and its users should evaluate the tradeoffs and choose.

Re: Codeberg Divides

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Post by bastawhiz »

aliasxneo wrote: post #23
free_bip wrote: post #21

I think this move by Codeberg is lowkey genius. They're trying to build a community based on a set of shared values. Those who disagree with those values are now self-selecting out of the Codeberg community, which is exactly the point of passing these kinds of resolutions. The fact that the rule is open for interpretation means that they can effectively shut down malicious actors (i.e those who intentionally misrepre…

Based on this precedence, if I'm accepted into the community today, how would I know I'll be accepted tomorrow? If you're literally just using Codeberg as a mirror, then sure, it doesn't really matter much. But like you said, that's not what they are building. They want people to invest in the community. So now, as an investor of my hard-earned free time, I'm faced with the question on whether all my investment can g…

> how would I know I'll be accepted tomorrow

This question exists for any service. Unless you host things yourself, there's a baseline amount of trust you have to have in any service.

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