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Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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Starlink can be jammed.

Jamming can be defeated quite funnily, by digging a pit and putting the antenna at the bottom of it.

Thanks for sharing, very interesting: https://www.technology.org/2023/08/01/did-russia-learn-to-ja...

Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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India is kind of cute. In the late 90s I attended a Telephone industry conference while working for a telephony test equipment company. A rep. from the Indian government gave a talk on their telephone system regulations. During the question period I got up and asked how India was dealing with voice over internet protocol (VOIP). With a straight face the speaker replied "We will not allow it". :-)

That's funny considering the scale of WhatsApp now in the country.

Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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India is kind of cute. In the late 90s I attended a Telephone industry conference while working for a telephony test equipment company. A rep. from the Indian government gave a talk on their telephone system regulations. During the question period I got up and asked how India was dealing with voice over internet protocol (VOIP). With a straight face the speaker replied "We will not allow it". :-)

Lots of countries ban voip in some way or another. Not allowed to connect to the PSTN. Disrupted by licensed ISPs based on traffic inspection. Large vendors yelled at. Etc.

isn't phone tech itself digital over the internet nowadays just like VOIP if it isn't using VOIP directly?

on the other phone calls are getting replaced by video chat with the various messengers, making VOIP a dying technology, at least the part that end users access directly.

Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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> the app enables communication even during network restrictions and creates a substantial risk of misuse by anti-national elements, terrorist organisations, organised criminal groups and cyber criminals seeking to evade lawful detection and continue communication despite legally imposed restrictions.

This mouthful boils down to exactly this: a form of communication not controlled by the government creates a risk for the country.

Sorry for pointing out the obvious, but if your country's safety depends on ability to block all forms of private person to person messages, your government has failed in one of its primary goals: providing safety for its citizens. They can blame Dorsey, Telegram, WhatsApp and what not, but it is their failure. Things will not change until people notice the obvious and vote out incompetent persons in power.

Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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> the app enables communication even during network restrictions and creates a substantial risk of misuse by anti-national elements, terrorist organisations, organised criminal groups and cyber criminals seeking to evade lawful detection and continue communication despite legally imposed restrictions. This mouthful boils down to exactly this: a form of communication not controlled by the government creates a risk for…

Playing Devils Advocate... isn't this the government taking action?

Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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I think I missed the joke here. Can you please elaborate?

I think it’s from parks and recs. but the quote was “we have the best patients in the world. Because of jail. “

Search “parks and recs straight to jail”

Re: Government orders GitHub to remove Bluetooth-based chat app Bitchat: Jack Dorsey

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India is kind of cute. In the late 90s I attended a Telephone industry conference while working for a telephony test equipment company. A rep. from the Indian government gave a talk on their telephone system regulations. During the question period I got up and asked how India was dealing with voice over internet protocol (VOIP). With a straight face the speaker replied "We will not allow it". :-)

And it's also cute when people imply the internet is unregulateable. There are plenty of tools that countries use to regulate internet traffic. They can require ISPs to DPI the traffic and block it. They can MITM traffic. They can shut off the internet entirely. They can throw people in jail. etc. This stuff happens in many places, including in India.

>And it's also cute when people imply the internet is unregulateable. There are plenty of tools that countries use to regulate internet traffic. They can require ISPs to DPI the traffic and block it. They can MITM traffic. They can shut off the internet entirely. They can throw people in jail. etc.

I don't think there's any country that can keep a lid on the internet. The best they can do are leaky blocks (china's gfw is probably the best in the world, but still quite leaky), or complete shutdowns (eg. iran).

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