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Re: Codeberg Divides

#3
I don’t even mind forges taking a stance on AI. That’s fine. But I agree with Armin Ronacher here: banning projects that “mostly consist of code written by generative AI tools” is like the infamous Supreme Court “I know it when I see it” line. Yes of course I know a project mostly written by generative AI when I see it.

Re: Codeberg Divides

#4
Fully agree. I am against AI slop, LLM overhyping, and cryto scams, as much as anybody, however:

> the main property I need from infrastructure [is for] it to be predictable, dependable, and reasonably neutral towards the legal Open Source software hosted on it.

I do not like to build on a foundation that could be ripped away from under my feet at any moment for arbitrary reasons.

Re: Codeberg Divides

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> There are serious questions about copyright, labor, energy use, slop, and maintainers drowning in generated contributions. But

Way to not at all engage with any of that and just go on your merry way...

Sure, if you fail to acknowledge that the other side has valid points, it is easy to act like you're completely right and they are morons, and we all need to Kumbaya together, and forget about their views.

Re: Codeberg Divides

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post #3

I don’t even mind forges taking a stance on AI. That’s fine. But I agree with Armin Ronacher here: banning projects that “mostly consist of code written by generative AI tools” is like the infamous Supreme Court “I know it when I see it” line. Yes of course I know a project mostly written by generative AI when I see it.

Exactly.

> The line is open to interpretation precisely where it needs to be enforceable.

It is way too arbitrary and open to interpretation and biases.

Re: Codeberg Divides

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> But these tools are also becoming part of how software is made. The Open Source world needs to figure out how to engage with that future, not just divide into camps.

No. They don't. This isn't a "you just have to deal". You can say no. It's OK to decide that it's not worth the smaller amount of positives to deal with the massive amount of negatives. If you disagree, start your own community.

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