I don't see why anyone is shocked that people would want to build a community that keeps out vibe coders and crypto bros. There are plenty of options, who cares?
I regret migrating to Codeberg
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Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg
#412Earlier quoted context omitted.
Using RMS as an example of "how to not be political" is uh... interesting.
RMS headed a political organization, and kept his political campaigning to things directly related to the politics that his organization represented. The people who were angry at RMS's "politics" were always actually mad at the concept of Free Software in general, and the fact that RMS thinks that software that is not Free is bad software (and does not think you are an exception.) He wasn't banging on about trans rig…
Wasn't it because he said it was okay to breed 16 year old girls or something?
Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg
#413Earlier quoted context omitted.
Until proven otherwise, Codeberg's operations have nothing to do with the uyghur genocide though.
There's nothing to prove when you posit your responsibility is limitless. Codeberg is in Germany yet I don't see them taking a stance in the Russian war in Ukraine, which they helped finance by building their economy on cheap Russian oil and gas. I guess by ops logic that means codeberg is in favor of Russian aggression.
Could be. Why not ask them and find out? Or upload a project to help the Russian war and see if they take it down?
Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg
#414Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are these plentiful alternatives? SourceHut also comes with “personal baggage”.
Just host your own git server, it's an afternoon project. Use other forges as mirrors.
if you have ssh access to a server, setup is as easy as
ssh user@host
mkdir myproject
git init --bare myproject
The remote URL is user@host:myproject (relative to user home dir) or user@host:/home/user/myproject (absolute path)
Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg
#415Earlier quoted context omitted.
Until proven otherwise, Codeberg's operations have nothing to do with the uyghur genocide though.
There's nothing to prove when you posit your responsibility is limitless. Codeberg is in Germany yet I don't see them taking a stance in the Russian war in Ukraine, which they helped finance by building their economy on cheap Russian oil and gas. I guess by ops logic that means codeberg is in favor of Russian aggression.
Again, Codeberg is not involved in anything related to Russian war in Ukraine, and is not responsible for Germany building their economy on cheap Russian oil and gas, so they could not possibly be assumed to be in favor of Russian agression unless they made a statement towards this.
Yet,
> I don't see them taking a stance in the Russian war in Ukraine
that's because you didn't bother to check, you just assumed they didn't.
https://blog.codeberg.org/one-year-into-the-war-your-help-is...
> I guess by ops logic
I don't think so. Them being involved or not in the thing makes all the difference.
Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg
#416Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are these plentiful alternatives? SourceHut also comes with “personal baggage”.
It really is a shame Drew is so opinionated and dogmatic. I like most of his work, but his politics make Source Hut too shaky of a foundation to build on.
Amuses me that Codeberg and Sourcehut have the same naming scheme. What's next - SLoCbarn? Header Haven? Function City?
Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg
#417Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're not obligated to deal with the higher load brought on by people's LLM coded projects, CI pipelines etc. In order to keep things freed up and flexible for others, I think it's fair for them to say, "in this community, we're going to save the space for more hand-coded projects." It's not fair for everyone to have to eat the costs of AI (like communities getting bulldozed for data centers) and just accept that i…
Of course nobody is obligated and I never claimed that. In fact, I fucking hate the LLM hypetrain. But this decision is decidedly non-neutral and non-free.
What would a neutral free SaaS look like to you?
Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg
#418Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agree. Providers who don't want to deal with LLM generated code should be respected as part of the free market. Let the market decide which direction is for the better or at least allow for niches that cater to certain audiences.
It's wild to me that nobody is considering enforcement. Part of the reason this is a bad rule is because there's no way to actually validate what is an LLM coded project. And the AI train is not nearly at its destination. Things are going to change dramatically over the next four years. My prediction? This is not going to age well.
It'll be the same as literally every other ToS ever: if they detect a problem and trace it to you, and you're blatantly violating the terms, they kick you off. If they detect a problem and trace it to you, and you're subtly violating the terms, they lock out whatever is causing the problem and get in contact with you.
Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg
#419Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find it endearing that someone is keeping up the resistance against JavaScript. Used things like noscript myself since 2008 or so. Eventually gave up since nearly no website would work that way and served you captcha loops instead.
You gave up because the anti JavaScript position is completely insane and unreasonable? The amount of work you have to put in to support a complete absence of JavaScript is more than 2x the original time spent on getting the site to work and it will lead to a heavily degraded user experience that nobody wants in the first place. The amount of features locked behind JavaScript keep increasing. There are so many essent…
I am fine with the "degraded" experience. I eventually gave up because I got served captcha loops instead of the actual site. All I need from an untrusted site is to read text which shouldn't require JavaScript.
Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg
#420Earlier quoted context omitted.
And as long as it's hand-made, that's fine.
What is hand made code? Does that mean no auto complete? No linters?
If a carpenter uses a table saw, is he still a carpenter?
What if he just throws wood randomly at the table saw and tries to sell whatever pieces come out?
(Never do this with a table saw, btw. They can, and will if you don't use proper procedures, throw wood sideways at speeds that can punch through walls and impale people)