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I honestly think I would. I have a maid come every two weeks which is of course not often enough for dishes/laundry. A maid that only came weekly couldn't stay on top of dishes either but they could do laundry fine sure. I do a lot of cooking and I find constantly doing dishes and loading/unloading the dishwasher to be a huge never-ending pain. A device that costs 100k and would free of me that sisyphean task forever…

Well in that case the robot should cook as well! Sure, if the robot could do all the chores in a household that price looks more reasonable. I quite enjoy doing laundry myself though, it's a routine I do at night and find relaxing.

A kitchen helper that did all worst parts of cooking, the prep, peeling potatoes etc - and let me come in right where the celebrity chefs on tv do, with all the ingredients ready to go, would be pretty cool

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Well in that case the robot should cook as well! Sure, if the robot could do all the chores in a household that price looks more reasonable. I quite enjoy doing laundry myself though, it's a routine I do at night and find relaxing.

A kitchen helper that did all worst parts of cooking, the prep, peeling potatoes etc - and let me come in right where the celebrity chefs on tv do, with all the ingredients ready to go, would be pretty cool

I would love this. It would let me do more elaborate and complicated meals more often. I could focus on experimenting and trying new recipes rather than the drudgery.

The whole thing where the chef has every single ingredient ready to go in a separate bowl? (which in real life would be an insane amount of dishes to do) You could do that for real and let the robot worry about the dishes.

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Robots will take jobs from massive amount of low income people. AI will take jobs from a massive amount of avg and high income people. The disruption ahead is getting pillowed right now due to physical limitations of progress like amount of energy, building DC, doing research, training models (its still takes 1-3 month). Also a massive buffer will be the boomer going into retirement. Depending on the speed of all of…

You have no evidence of this. Also: you can literally make incredible software that would take half a year right now for $200/month. Or free if you run local open weights. You can do branding, marketing, design. You can create comics and movies and video games. You can make an AI tool right now and get customers today. You have no idea how wildly popular this segment is. How much people willingly engage with this stu…

Of course I don't. But its a comment so its my personal current view.

Right now we have massive investment into AI and Compute. So massive, its basically unseen. We are adding more compute than ever before.

This compute can do work and it can do now very arbitrary work. Insurance case work, software development, image generation etc. Everything it can't do today, it will be able to do tomorrow.

Now we as humans are getting steamrolled already. I have a handful of work collegues which are worse than an LLM and I would prefer to have them gone just because its easier for me to explain to an LLM what I want/need instead of doing the same thing with these collegues.

But AI is not stopping, every single day we use AI and we give AI hints like a thumbs up or down or complain to the AI that this is not what I wanted, the AI companies get a signal they can train for. We already today have build the biggest global Reinforcement Loop every. We share it with a handful of companies, but every company gets enough RL signals.

If that AI model has learned something, a billion people can use it. So the investment in teaching an AI model a new trick, is a 1000x cheaper than teaching this trick every human.

You might say "okay but i don't want to use AI" but then someone else comes along and does it.

And AI tokens are not cheap. They are expensive and now work has a money value. If I'm a boss and the AI is 10x faster and 10x chceaper than a human, its very easy what i will do: I will reduce my workforce to optimize for AI usage.

While all of the Soft AI stuff is happening, the robotics are leapfrogging progress. Automatisation in self driving trucks also progresses.

We are now in a timeline of full automatisation.

And my personal assumption is, that this hasn't even really started yet because we are 5-15 years away from the real AI AGI progress.

I don't think people will be able to compete with Google, Apple and co. They already have jumped on AI. Google is market leader. And these companies do have the money for a full AI transition.

Besides that, Google has physical infrastructure around the globe, they have their own undersee internet cables.

But for sure it will disrupt software and plenty of companies one way or the other. And if these companes and we as humans are not acting upon fast, we are gone.

Industry is slow and even if disruption means, that the market will still be there but will look very different, disruption hurts a lot for an economy.

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It’s not demonstrated yet as we still have to see a robot (humanoid or not) doing mundane tasks in full autonomy, efficiently and convincingly. It still looks inefficient to have a humanoid robot vacuum a house by using an ergonomic tool designed around the human body.

I'm not following the argument. The robots linked above wouldn't be capable of vacuuming either. My point stands - the world is made for humans, we might remake an aspect of it for new vehicles that provided some radical advantage (as we did with airports or roads, although that would be a much larger undertaking with the level of complexities cities have today). But we're certainly not going to have twenty different…

Personally I’d love to see a general purpose machine, able to do all works demanded. This kind of vision doesn’t require any imagination: it’s easy to envision a world where you just replace humans by a human-shaped machines with perfect dexterity doing all sort of tasks. Voilà and welcome to the future!

But I still need to see a convincing humanoid doing even the simplest actions like grabbing a soda can from the fridge (from behind the cake), open it, and pour it into a glass and bring it to my desk, possibly in less than 60 minutes. It doesn't matter if it costs 30k if it can’t do anything useful for now. The gap is still too wide and far far away. Hence the missing “proof”.

Delivery robots in the hotels in China have the shape of a bin, not of a maid.

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You would honestly pay 50-100k on a robot that just folds laundry or does your dishes? In the US you can get a maid that cleans once a week for $150-250 and would do a much better job. By the time that cost would equal this robot, the robot would be obsolete, not to mention any maintenance costs. Also dishes are the easiest chore to do around the house, especially if you clean them after use instead of letting them p…

As long as it was the kind I could buy spare parts for, sure. And it wasn't connected to the internet. Not having cleaning staff in the house periodically would be a huge quality of life improvement.

This is a huge overlooked factor I think.

Except for people who grew up rich and are used to having "help" in the home, most regular folks find having paid help in their home more than a bit awkward.

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Sorry, but if you're buying clothes that have manual drying steps, it's gonna be a hard sale to the general public.

This is a mostly American perspective that I find endlessly amusing. I only have a handful of clothing items that say that tumble drying is fine on the tag, and most of my clothing is very casual wear (t-shirts, jeans, sports clothing). Dryers eat up clothing like it's nobody's business. Plus, electricity costs money while the sun is free. And while yes, the time to hang laundry has value, it takes 10 minutes to hang…

> Plus, electricity costs money while the sun is free.

Paradoxically, wholesale electric costs are negative during the day here in California[1], especially in the Salinas region. In theory you could get paid to tumble dry clothes.

[1]: https://www.caiso.com/todays-outlook/prices

Re: Xiaomi-Robotics-1

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It's cheaper . That's, like, the only reason ever the mass market adopts any alternative. And usually better, too.

Anecdotal, but the best machine will never be able to do something as good as the best human in most circumstances. That is because, unlike machines, humans have passions and character that subtly imbues itself in the end result. This, of course, isn't limited to coffee, but to anything a machine could do that isn't strictly tied to exercises in logic (for example, computers will always be better than humans at most…

But the point is you will never have the best barista all the time l. Unless you are 0.0001 % of population who can afford personal barista to follow you anywhere, you accept whoever is serving coffe at the corner shop. And for a machine to be better that barista is not a tall order. So it makes good coffee accessible for many
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