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Re: Launching Health in ChatGPT to US Users

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This is a terrible idea on any way shape or form you can imagine. Even if they say they won't, they will, and there is no telling what they would do with the data itself...

I bet people out there are already uploading all sorts of private or confidential stuff to ChatGPT. I don't think that will make much of a difference.

Re: Launching Health in ChatGPT to US Users

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post #8

I think doctors are going to lose their minds or at the very least get extremely agitated/frustrated as patients increasingly use AI tools to do self-research for symptoms and diagnosis. And I know this because I am guilty of this myself and recently had a dentist tell me to not do that. And this applies to so many health workers, your GP as well as your physical therapist, etc. Recently I had Claude analyze an MRI o…

One of the worst things a new mother can do is use google, instant panic attacks. I imagine using an LLM would do the same.

When my first kiddo was an infant any google result for information related to even a sneeze said it was an indication of some super tragic situation. Any advice about a behavior or trait ended with basically "your child is destined to be a serial killer".

For any new parents out there, just call your doctor. Stay far away from the internet and AI when it comes to your baby's health.

Re: Launching Health in ChatGPT to US Users

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Searching in vain for any mention of HIPAA compliance…

HIPAA only applies to data originating from a covered entity.

It doesn't apply to information the patient supplies directly.

As a patient, I can take out a street sign displaying my health records if I want. It's my data.

If I want to upload it to a strange AI or any other app, that's completely fine. HIPAA isn't involved, for either me or the company I upload to.

In fact, quite the opposite. CMS has been going to great pains over the past decade or so to create standards to help patients get access to their records and own them themselves.

Different states may have additional protections in this case, and I know there has been some discussion at the federal level about regulating these "wellness" apps.

As an interesting technical detail not many people know, HIPAA only applies to Covered Entities and Business Associates engaging in the electronic exchange of information using "standard transactions", and was intended to regulate insurance and billing transactions.

A doctor that keeps paper charts and bills cash directly to the patient wouldn't fall under HIPAA at all.

Re: Launching Health in ChatGPT to US Users

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post #7

The American Medical Association and health insurance industries can all fuck off. The healthcare situation in the US is so absurd and Kafka-esque I welcome LLMs in medicine. I haven’t seen a MD in years, I’ve only seen nurse practitioners and physician assistants. Add to that how insurance will randomly deny tests, procedures and treatments, I have very little use for the current medical establishment.

Agreed on the problems, but how will an LLM fix any of that? Even if it does somehow give you the right answer, it cannot perform procedures or prescribe medicine. You still need to get an appointment for anything beyond information. Your insurance isn't going to say, "Oh, sure, if chatGPT said you need this, we'll approve it."

Re: Launching Health in ChatGPT to US Users

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post #8

I think doctors are going to lose their minds or at the very least get extremely agitated/frustrated as patients increasingly use AI tools to do self-research for symptoms and diagnosis. And I know this because I am guilty of this myself and recently had a dentist tell me to not do that. And this applies to so many health workers, your GP as well as your physical therapist, etc. Recently I had Claude analyze an MRI o…

Theres a good use case in AI for patients to chat to tho, if i could transfer all of the context of a conversation I had with a AI bot to my Dr before a appointment it would most likely improve outcomes because I have been much more verbose and descriptive to the AI bot. You basically want an AI chat bot for patient history...
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