Bun, but managed by someone who values code quality? Sign me up. It’s a Herculean task, though.
> It’s a Herculean task, though. I believe it’s spelled Sisyphean.
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Re: Buz – A fork of Bun using modern Zig, with sub-1s incremental builds
#32As a software engineer these days, I can't say i do not use Agent to help work done, but i am really a bit of tired to see so much solutions while not talk about what problem they are trying to really solve
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#33> To this end, LLMs will be used extensively to deslop... So we're using LLMs to clean up the code that LLMs ruined in the first place? We’ve reached peak tech in 2026.
Engineering is about design and plan and architectural integrity and qa. Not writing code anymore.
Re: Buz – A fork of Bun using modern Zig, with sub-1s incremental builds
#34Very interesting, but without an ecosystem I doubt this person can keep maintaining it long term. Bun users who don't care about slop will continue to use Bun, those who care will go back to Node.js, and there isn't much left for this project. It is a gigantic task to maintain a JS runtime and add features.
What slop does Bun create or cause?
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#35> To this end, LLMs will be used extensively to deslop... So we're using LLMs to clean up the code that LLMs ruined in the first place? We’ve reached peak tech in 2026.
LLMs are as good as the operator directing them.
Skilled engineers may still vibe and not care. Beginners may be thorough and experiment and ask till they get the design right even if they don't spot it immediately, just caring does a lot.
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#36> To this end, LLMs will be used extensively to deslop... So we're using LLMs to clean up the code that LLMs ruined in the first place? We’ve reached peak tech in 2026.
This is the present and future, willingly or not. Engineering is about design and plan and architectural integrity and qa. Not writing code anymore.
If you were an L6+, it was already not really about that.
It's kind of amazing to me that people think the only thing engineers do and the only value they bring is writing code.
Re: Buz – A fork of Bun using modern Zig, with sub-1s incremental builds
#37This is astonishing. Is anyone else surprised at this dead code figure? Is it a feature of large projects I've just never noticed?
Re: Buz – A fork of Bun using modern Zig, with sub-1s incremental builds
#38Why is there so much buzz around bun? Can't we just go back to node + npm + vitest + vite?
I've experimented a lot with all nodes up to 24 latest and bun has consistently led to sizeable speed ups.
Re: Buz – A fork of Bun using modern Zig, with sub-1s incremental builds
#39Why is there so much buzz around bun? Can't we just go back to node + npm + vitest + vite?
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’d say I fall in the “AI skeptic but willing to use it” category. If LLMs can actually clean up after themselves it would actually be a game changer.
I'm about to release some tooling that's been very effective for me. Essentially, there's a few ways LLMs write "bad" code that is different from how people write "bad" code. We've got pretty good tooling to catch the ways people write bad code - it just happens to be much easier to do with static analysis (and is less noise prone). The ways LLMs write bad code is typically 1) bad architecture - hard to detect in the…