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Re: Flux 3

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Post by Fricken »

user43928 wrote: post #53
vouaobrasil wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's possible it's because some people care about the consequences of what we're doing as a society beyond the mindless satiation of curiosity. Nothing wrong with curiosity in my books by the way, but I do think isolating it the way we've done in the technical fields is a dangerous and irresponsible attitude.

As I understand it HN is a community for hackers to discuss interesting and curious topics. Pessimistic opinions on the labor market, views about society and politics that border on the dystopian, as well as exaggerated concerns about datacenter environmental impacts, all seem like a poor fit for this website.

There are less things to talk about on HN today than ever before!

Re: Flux 3

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Post by walrus01 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #88
walrus01 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My criticism is specifically with the use of text-to-image and text-to-video generators that will create fully artificial video and image content. I've seen the uses that these tools are being put to in 2025/2026 for electoral manipulation, social issue manipulation and it leaves me with a very distasteful impression. You will not see me leaving comments such as this, for example, on the release of a "strong in codin…

> electoral manipulation That must be the poster child of the most boring and meaningless accusation thrown around new technologies (after the data center water scare, which was just plain bogus). We've heard this non stop since Cambridge Analytica nothingburger. It's all noise distracting from the one meaningful aspect of it: marketing to people is electoral manipulation, and since that's unquestionably allowed, the…

I'm not just talking about within the context of Cambridge Analytica / USA specific things.

For a more immediate example, look at Russian weaponization of social media in Mali for a pro-russia, anti-everyone-else narrative. Often deployed against a population that has a much greater level of credulity of anything they see on social media, and lack of inoculation against it by multiple years of seeing artificially generates nonsense.

Re: Flux 3

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Post by impossiblefork »

jdthedisciple wrote: post #20

It's incredible how negative and dismissive the comments in here are while here I am thinking the model actually looks impressively capable. But then again I heard the downers have always been the first to leave their dung comments here so let's see...

It's probably actually good, but after this stuff with Qwen-Image-3 and it's ability to things like render images that look like they were rendered with LaTeX or compose many things side by side or in depth, maybe it's perhaps not totally in the right direction to only focus on visual stuff.

Re: Flux 3

#94

Post by grosswait »

ra wrote: post #22
jdthedisciple wrote: post #20

It's incredible how negative and dismissive the comments in here are while here I am thinking the model actually looks impressively capable. But then again I heard the downers have always been the first to leave their dung comments here so let's see...

It would be interesting to see some time-series sentiment analysis of HN. Subjectively it feels like there's much negativity on HN these days, I hope I'm wrong.

Add in time zone of the commenter and potentially some really interesting data emerges.

Re: Flux 3

#95

Post by nl »

tormeh wrote: post #57

These people are hiring in... Freiburg im Breisgau? Wonder how hiring is working out for them there.

Freiburg University is pretty well known isn't it?

Hiring in university towns is a pretty standard practice for startups outside SF.

Re: Flux 3

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Post by user43928 »

Fricken wrote: post #91
user43928 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I understand it HN is a community for hackers to discuss interesting and curious topics. Pessimistic opinions on the labor market, views about society and politics that border on the dystopian, as well as exaggerated concerns about datacenter environmental impacts, all seem like a poor fit for this website.

There are less things to talk about on HN today than ever before!

I disagree.

We live in a time where artificial intelligence begins to rival humans in some areas.

We can now really automate things.

How interesting is that? There is so much to talk about.

Re: Flux 3

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Post by 3abiton »

3form wrote: post #28
user43928 wrote: post #10

I hope the open-weight versions will be SOTA. > Over the next few weeks and months, we will make the following capabilities available > Open-weight access to a multimodal backbone, for content creation (video, audio and image) and action prediction. (“FLUX 3 Dev”) > We will also release more technical details on the underlying approach.

Open-weight promise seems nice, but 1) I've seen people commenting that these hopes amounted to nothing for some previous releases (no idea which promises were made though); and 2) if the backbone is released as Dev, what will be missing? I can't easily tell from the post.

Could be handicapped version with more limited functionalities. Noentheless, open-weight is open-weight, I just hope the quality is good enough to be sota.

Re: Flux 3

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Post by fidotron »

smokel wrote: post #38
thisisauserid wrote: post #2

- Showed close to zero examples of people. - Frivolous use of the term World Model. - Claims 20 seconds of video, shows only jumpcuts. Coming soon!

> Frivolous use of the term World Model The term "world model" as it was once used in model-based RL can now apparently refer to anything as silly as linear regression. Then again, the RL folks probably borrowed the term from behavioral scientists before them. It's probably best to simply accept this :/ A similar thing happened to "object oriented" which has been misused by philosophers and visual artists alike.

I'd have way more sympathy for the world-model-term-misuse complaints if the ML world hadn't studiously ignored and then reinvented so many fields over the years.

https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.06485 is enough to make any half decent game dev sit around wondering what was going on, as well as the general "maybe we're wasting a lot of space with all these floats?" At least now LLMs can tell them what SoTA is in other fields before they try to rediscover it.

Re: Flux 3

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Post by [deleted] »

ra wrote: post #22
jdthedisciple wrote: post #20

It's incredible how negative and dismissive the comments in here are while here I am thinking the model actually looks impressively capable. But then again I heard the downers have always been the first to leave their dung comments here so let's see...

It would be interesting to see some time-series sentiment analysis of HN. Subjectively it feels like there's much negativity on HN these days, I hope I'm wrong.

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Re: Flux 3

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Post by [deleted] »

user43928 wrote: post #96
Fricken wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are less things to talk about on HN today than ever before!

I disagree. We live in a time where artificial intelligence begins to rival humans in some areas. We can now really automate things. How interesting is that? There is so much to talk about.

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