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Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by lifthrasiir »

noodletheworld wrote: post #234
lifthrasiir wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do yourself a favor and look at the actual HN thread [1] when Codeberg was widely discussed for the first time. It is crystal clear that Codeberg was seen as a direct alternative to GitHub at that time, and even the founder's quoted statement gave a nod to that I think? > [...] But as developers of free software we fell into a trap – we poured invaluable source code, documentation and last not least a huge and steady…

That thread is from 2020. Times change. Free services owe no one, anything. If you are joining a community, be respectful. If you're not, and you get banned, that sucks. If it causes a whole category of your peers to be banned that sucks too. …but its a bit rich to say, oh yeah, the promises you made before LLMs were a thing didn't include a note saying “except if you spam AI generated code”. Come on. They dont owe a…

The OP said the Mandela effect [1] which is definitely about the past event. Anyhow, I'm okay with Codeberg's decision (I'm not even its stakeholder, so what can I say about that anyway) but it has to be honest about the intent. If its definition of "F/OSS" has changed, do say so.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory#Mandela_effect

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by pelasaco »

zyx321 wrote: post #238
pelasaco wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others...

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the spicy autocomplete.

well one can argue that many more people will write code with AI assistance than without it.. here i see the opposite: The wish of few outweigh the need of many.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by raffael_de »

AussieWog93 wrote: post #233
HelloNurse wrote: post #139

> It seems like many ‘vibe coders’ don’t realize that they don’t actually have a community around them. This is not about demanding a community, as the article argues about at great length: it's only a polite way to say that many ‘vibe coders’ are annoying, negative net value assholes. Community would ensure that they are not aberrant lone wolves.

> many ‘vibe coders’ are annoying, negative net value assholes Where on Earth does this sentiment come from? I've had people make AI contributions to my open-source projects and while they may be perhaps less technical on average they're every bit as well intentioned - possibly moreso since they're interested in improving the project rather than establishing a little fiefdom.

> AI contributions

using AI is not vibe coding. the difference is whether a developer takes responsibility and the according measures before releasing/contributing or not.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by thejosh »

I would love to use something that isn't GitHub for code hosting.

Codeberg sounds great, but from using it day-to-day, it's really slow sometimes, and frequently times out (from Perth, AU, if it matters). This is not just the SSH protocol for git pushes, but also for browsing.

(I do have a self-hosted forgejo (came from gitea), it's great, Postgres database backs up, files are easy to backup, it's also git so I can just mirror it elsewhere as well.). I love their self-hosted runners is super simple to host.

Bit random, but for code search, does anyone have any recommendations?

My current process is to just `git clone ` onto my server, then use ripgrep (Can't beat good ol' plain text search).

The result is that this is hundreds of GB -- I like to clone everything I use, dependencies etc, to then be able to look at source code. (I use quite a few languages/ecosystems, and sometimes reading the source code is the best way to figure something out).

I've tried Sourcebot (just for the code search, I don't care about "MCP"/"AI") etc, but was wondering if anyone has recommendations.

GitHubs code search is great, but it doesn't find everything, and it is also incredibly rate limited (annoying when trying to narrow something down, and you then get rate limited). I use this when trying to figure out random Apple issues - someone somewhere has figured it out usually.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by boyter »

thejosh wrote: post #244

I would love to use something that isn't GitHub for code hosting. Codeberg sounds great, but from using it day-to-day, it's really slow sometimes, and frequently times out (from Perth, AU, if it matters). This is not just the SSH protocol for git pushes, but also for browsing. (I do have a self-hosted forgejo (came from gitea), it's great, Postgres database backs up, files are easy to backup, it's also git so I can j…

Tooting my own horn here for search but give https://github.com/boyter/cs a go. You can have a http server up if you like (even modify the templates) and have it sync your repos for you on a schedule you define.

Let me know if it fails in some area and I’ll fix it.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by anarki8 »

frabcus wrote: post #172
anarki8 wrote: post #155

Migrated to it around 3 years ago. All I needed was a dependable and simpler (preferably EU-based) GitHub alternative for my FOSS code. Now I am migrating away and stopped my donations to the e.V. Not because I have cryptocurrency-related or vibecoded projects (I don't), but because this sets precedent of introducing vague rules that ban random/unpopular projects. Ironically, I migrated to it from SourceHut because o…

I can't find similar rules at SourceHut, can you point to them? They use Anubis and block LLM scraping, but that sounds useful to me!

Not sure how Anubis plays with SourceHut trying to be js-free, but otherwise it's awesome.

SourceHut prohibits anything cryptocurrency- or blockchain-related, so it's less restrictive now, but I didn't like this random opinionated addition to ToS back then and Codeberg felt like a nice alternative.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by jasonvorhe »

selfhoster1312 wrote: post #177
jasonvorhe wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I read this quote I also had to think of this tante person on Mastodon urging their thousands of followers to vote for a certain thing. If one actor like this can possibly impact a small community this way, I'm on the cautious to sceptical side about that community project's future.

I'm sorry but you are completely out of touch with reality. This is a non-profit calling on their members to vote. Non-members didn't have a say, so a random member posting on Mastodon is not going to influence the results in the way that you imply (i.e. trolls raiding an online form). Also, despite what your remote view suggests, members of non-profits usually have political opinions. Codeberg was founded for politi…

I see multiple people in the replies that all confirm they voted in favor.

I never claimed anyone could vote.

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by 0dayz »

I think it's mostly a poorly worded change, with odd assertions that one can interpret as "why do you need x feature made for your blog made by Ai just use notepad and apache server for your blog".

The resource point is fair enough but as the blog post says they can make it a paid service for llm folks.

I think it's a bit an

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by fuglede_ »

anarki8 wrote: post #155

Migrated to it around 3 years ago. All I needed was a dependable and simpler (preferably EU-based) GitHub alternative for my FOSS code. Now I am migrating away and stopped my donations to the e.V. Not because I have cryptocurrency-related or vibecoded projects (I don't), but because this sets precedent of introducing vague rules that ban random/unpopular projects. Ironically, I migrated to it from SourceHut because o…

> Now I am migrating away

Where to, if I may ask? Are there any stable FOSS-emphasizing (preferably EU-based) alternatives (outside of just self-hosting)?

Re: I regret migrating to Codeberg

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Post by chmod775 »

Keeping up with this stuff is for people who define their identity through virtue signalling and whatever personality trait they have decided to make the problem of everyone around them.

Let them have their little corner of the internet and just stay away. There's plenty of alternatives run by people who don't feel the need to bring their personal baggage into a cooperative environment.

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