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Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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This is a really interesting read. But it doesn't answer one question I have, which is why can't Sony or Apple or anyone else bring back decent MP3 players? None of this technology is lost, and there are plenty of small-time two bit no name players out there still making them, often in a much smaller, much slicker form factor than than the original digital Walkman or iPod. If I want to buy a new MP3 player, I have to…

Apple got it right with the original iPod, and your ask, and others, is just to extend it to modern times. A lot of these comments simply aren't helpful, and people chiming in know it. For me, I was looking for 1) Music player that holds a ton of songs. 2) Lossless. 3) No touch screen control. 4) Battery that is long lasting and semi-replaceable. 5) Smaller than modern phones. 6) Great software experience, which for…

MP3-module from Aliexpress and some ESP-board with tiny display and micropython. Ten Euro.

You can make random search N in the MP3-module, because OFF/ON restarts and then you short NEXT-button wires N times.

Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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I guess there just is no room in the current market for a mid-ranged product. The segment is being squeezed on at least five sides (probably more): - Cheap low-end no-name players; - Audiophile products like the Sony walkman stuff; - People who are happy using their phones; - (for the exercise "phone too heavy" use case) A smart watch, paired to bluetooth headphones; - Second hand iPods from the 2000s, often refurbis…

I just thought that maybe this is something for a personal Pi 0 project. DAC + microSD card + off the shelf display + 3D printed case + battery.

Or even the Pi Pico.

You really don't need that much processing power to decode mp3s and FLACs.

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I always found the MD format super cool. It’s a real shame that, even with BD-like densities, it just can’t compete with a cheap USB stick.

MiniDisc would have been an ideal successor to the floppy disk if only Sony had unclenched their fist just a little bit. USB sticks are higher capacity but there's utility in having media you don't have to keep track of; especially in the early 2000s it would have been very handy to give somebody a MiniDisc of data and just say "don't worry too much about getting that back to me, I have a whole box at home". We had r…

Yeah - like many things Sony they went to proprietary and locked down

Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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> If I want to buy a new MP3 player, I have to buy something from a company I've never heard of with a terrible screen, use an old phone, or buy some sort of enthusiast audiophile flac player thing that costs way too much. Is this surprising? They are a commodity (you can literally build a fairly decent for less than $10 in parts) so therefore are low profit. Brands you have heard of generally don't want to play in c…

I've bought several of these and they don't last. You're right that they are commodity items. The components and quality are shit, there's no support, and six months later the company has vanished. I guess I just want somewhere between $30 and $500, somewhere between absolutely piece of shit and extreme prestige. But I'm dreaming if I think anyone is going to serve that market

Doesn't Fiio and the like make a bunch of fairly affordable stuff ? Definitely well under 500$

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I had an ipod, but the battery is dead, and it still had a rotating hd, so I thought: I liked Sony Discman, back in the day, this new player must be good. I was wrong. It sucks in many different ways. I've described some of the problems before and copied them here: My iPod Classic was in a terminal phase, and since I like to carry my music around instead of streaming arbitrary stuff, I bought a Sony Walkman mp3 (+ ot…

Refurbished iPod is the way try go, I have a 2006 model with new battery and 128GB flash memory, it’s great for leaving plugged in in the car

Probably have the same model - what battery did you use ?

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Have you looked at fiio? They’ve been doing it a while and aren’t crazy expensive https://www.fiio.com/player https://a.co/d/055SGJE1

These actually look decent, thanks for the link. I wonder why I could never find them in my endless googling

There's other competitors as well. Just search for "DAP" (digital audio player)

Or buy any old but decent condition LG V series phone (like a V20, v50 etc etc)

Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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MP3s have been on the way out for a long time, being replaced by music subscriptions. And "MP3 player" is a feature of other devices, not its own device. Both my Apple Watch and Garmin watch can store and play MP3s without a phone; both also support music subscriptions. The only market is in the "enthusiast audiophile flac player thing that costs way too much", just like it is currently for vinyls and DVD players.

> MP3s have been on the way out for a long time, being replaced by music subscriptions I both have music subscriptions (Spotify for the wife, Qobuz for me: Qobuz streams lossless but sucks for music discovery) and good old files (mostly FLAC files indeed except some very old, impossible-to-find, live recordings I only have in mp3). One does not prevent the other. Also some people self-host or partially self-host thin…

These days Spotify can stream FLACs as well, it's a setting.

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Would you still adore it as much today, though? I know I don't adore my iPod classic as much now as I did in 2006, and that's inclusive of the nostalgia kick. It's just not very practical and usable in today's world.

I don't use it daily, but I enjoyed rediscovering and using my MiniDisc stuff that I was inspired to build a pretty popular website around it :)

What's the website ?

Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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Why can't somebody take simple smartphone hardware and make a modern media player that is not a phone? Because you can do that with any phone and just not use the phone part?

Because I want something half the size of a phone. I don't need a giant screen, I just want a player that can do music or audiobooks and be light enough to run with. I find myself researching, trying to find the smallest lightest old phone that either has decent internal memory or a micro SD slot, but it's not easy. Most phones are massive compared to an iPod shuffle

Maybe a pair of these: https://uk.shokz.com/products/openswim-pro

They have 32GB of storage, no screen, light enough to run and swim with.

Re: Why Sony can't bring back its classic Walkman models

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I am so beyond sick of Sony right now. I didn't think they'd end right up there aongside the rest of humaniry's treasonous ilk such as Tesla/SpaceX/ChatGPT/Microsoft/Samsung/Nvidia/etc but the whole "we're not making discs for playstation because we repurposed the factory for some slop meant for ai data centres" left such a horrifically sour taste in my mouth that I wish them nothing but the absolute worst. Hell it f…

Best you can do is get familiar with peer-to-peer acquisition, and teach others. Starve the enshittifiers!

Oh no there's way more than that.

:)

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