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Re: Tell HN: Namecheap gave my account to an unverified third party

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Post by danaris »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #147
davnicwil wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heard some advice recently, I think in an article here on HN, to just use a big company registry where it's not their profit center, indeed may even be netural to loss making, to drive other business. This makes total sense to me. I'm not saying it solves all problems but it eliminates so many of them, including a meta problem: the risk of new classes of problems being unexpectedly introduced (by say a private equi…

I think a middle ground could be to use a great "domain registrar" and be prepared to move to another one when the last one stopped being great or sold to someone not so very great. And so on. Luckily this doesn't happen every month, or every year.

The problem with that is, there's not necessarily a signal for "stopped being great or sold to someone not so very great" besides "they gave my domain away to a scammer because they asked."

Re: Tell HN: Namecheap gave my account to an unverified third party

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Post by fsuts »

geuis wrote: post #11

I've been a long, long term customer of Namecheap as well. Domain privacy protection is a feature that Namecheap provides for all valid domains. Its included by default at no extra cost. The poster didn't indicate if they had this feature enabled or not for the domain. It would have prevented the college club person from even seeing their email address to initiate a password reset. This clearly isn't an answer for NC…

>Domain privacy protection is a feature that Namecheap provides for all valid domains. Its included by default at no extra cost.

Many/most domain registrars now give free domain privacy, so that’s not a reason to stay with namecheap.

Namecheap renewal rates are also higher than many others so surprises you have stayed and paid above market rates

Re: Tell HN: Namecheap gave my account to an unverified third party

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Post by [deleted] »

dgudkov wrote: post #140
happytoexplain wrote: post #3

Just a few weeks ago I moved from Namecheap to Porkbun. That's not an advertisement - I simply Googled popular registrars. But it is an indictment of Namecheap. They are going the way of GoDaddy. Please move away from them immediately. They are shifting to short-term strategies (high prices, immoral data practices, etc). Edit: Apparently they were bought by private equity just weeks before I noticed something was wro…

What makes you think the same can't happen with Porkbun?

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Re: Tell HN: Namecheap gave my account to an unverified third party

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Post by fsuts »

dgudkov wrote: post #140
happytoexplain wrote: post #3

Just a few weeks ago I moved from Namecheap to Porkbun. That's not an advertisement - I simply Googled popular registrars. But it is an indictment of Namecheap. They are going the way of GoDaddy. Please move away from them immediately. They are shifting to short-term strategies (high prices, immoral data practices, etc). Edit: Apparently they were bought by private equity just weeks before I noticed something was wro…

What makes you think the same can't happen with Porkbun?

It may, but what’s that got to do with moving away from namecheap?

Namecheap is not even cheap for names anymore, their renewal prices made me transfer elsewhere

Re: Tell HN: Namecheap gave my account to an unverified third party

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Post by fsuts »

appcustodian2 wrote: post #82
jolan wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloudflare offers domain registration/renewal with no markup if you're looking for an option. I moved to them after AWS increased fees.

i'm sure that will last

It’s a loss leader for their other products so it may well do

Re: Tell HN: Namecheap gave my account to an unverified third party

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Post by Imagenuity »

deadalus wrote: post #35
terribleperson wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...seriously? Where do I jump ship to now?

Porkbun. Yes, Cloudflare Domains exists but let's support the small guys.

I've been using Porkbun for several years now. No problems and terrific service.

Re: Tell HN: Namecheap gave my account to an unverified third party

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Post by Biganon »

terribleperson wrote: post #27
pilingual wrote: post #19

Namecheap has been owned by a private equity firm for several months now. It would be nice to have a nonprofit registrar so jumping every few years isn't necessary.

...seriously? Where do I jump ship to now?

I have everything at Infomaniak. Granted, I'm Swiss, but I think they're great for anyone.

Re: Tell HN: Namecheap gave my account to an unverified third party

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Post by progbits »

terribleperson wrote: post #27
pilingual wrote: post #19

Namecheap has been owned by a private equity firm for several months now. It would be nice to have a nonprofit registrar so jumping every few years isn't necessary.

...seriously? Where do I jump ship to now?

You can also buy .is domains directly from the ISNIC registry. Or .de, .to, and few others support that.

No registrar needed, they are useless middlemen anyway.

Re: Tell HN: Namecheap gave my account to an unverified third party

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Post by arendtio »

nkrisc wrote: post #96
ryandrake wrote: post #36

This kind of story makes me wonder what's the most popular/valuable domain I can take control of simply by being convincing over the phone. Sounds tempting! I can't even log in to most web sites anymore without doing a side-trip to my E-mail inbox, "for enhanced security," but these clowns let you just take a domain by asking nicely!

In many countries that’s probably illegal, even if it’s easy. Just because a crime is easy to commit doesn’t mean it isn’t a crime. So, keep it hypothetical.

Honest citizens think like that; others wonder what the punishment is, even if it is illegal. I mean, maybe paying a fine vs maybe getting access to a popular domain?

At least corporations seem to work like that. Not following the law seems completely okay as long as the fine is not X% of their annual turnover.

Re: Tell HN: Namecheap gave my account to an unverified third party

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Post by ButlerianJihad »

kstrauser wrote: post #148
ButlerianJihad wrote: post #132

So, reading through the holes in your story: you are not a leader of this club, nor a member, nor affiliated with the college at all. And the domain name wasn't actually "in use" but parked. And the legitimate leadership of the college-affiliated club was able to prove to NameCheap that they had a right to the domain name, as it was (not a right to your account, but a right to their club's name on the Internet). And…

This is bullshit. There are legal processes in place to decide disputes. Absent those processes, possession is ownership, and it would be absolute madness and chaos if it weren't. I could make pretty convincing letterhead "proving" that I own "Google Foods", but that doesn't mean a registrar should give me google.com. The correct process if I want to assert that is to sue for ownership and prove to a court that I'm t…

> legal processes in place

Another hole in OP's story: when/how did they follow the legal dispute process, rather than just "shooting a couple emails" and creating a new HN account to complain about it?

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