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Re: 98.css

#91

Post by RedShift1 »

sodapopcan wrote: post #52

Flat design is so ridiculous. Made someone a bunch of money. Now everyone follows like sheep. Sorry for the doomer comment but, like, really. I'd love to say that I'm surprised that we haven't gotten over this, but given it's been... 20 years (?)... I'm not surprised. Also, the way multi-row tabs Just Work in the UIs of yesteryear *chef's kiss*

Not only flat design but also using less color. We have monitors and graphics cards that can display millions of colors now and we refuse to use it... Not that it has to look like a coloring book but sheez Windows 10 and 11 make me feel depressed.

Re: 98.css

#92

Post by preg_match »

deathanatos wrote: post #78
cube00 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft had some excellent guidance[1] on this: > Reconsider disabled controls. Disabled controls can be hard to use because users literally have to deduce why they are disabled. Disable a control when users expect it to apply and they can easily deduce why the control is disabled. Remove the control when there is no way for users to enable it or they don't expect it to apply, or leave it enabled, but provide an er…

Excellent? No, > Remove the control when there is no way for users to enable it That guidance is unhinged, and is exactly the anti-pattern that upthread points to that needs to die. Removing the control is like gaslighting the user: they're looking for "how to do X?" and documentation, Internet searchable screenshots, and, god help us, now AI, are pointing them at a button that does not exist. I cannot tell you how m…

I agree, just gray it out and have a little question mark button next to it.

Also, way more question mark buttons. I don’t care how well named people think things are. They’re not, and there’s always some hidden behavior you just have to know behind every setting. Include the question mark.

Re: 98.css

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Post by nitin7 »

zemo wrote: post #33

unjokingly I think the fact that we removed grayed out buttons for "the button just doesn't appear" is one of the more confusing UI trends of our day and the sight of a grayed out button warms my heart

I think the button shouldn't appear if the user doesn't have the access to do it (eg. not an admin, has view rights only, etc).

However, if the user can and they expect to do it, but is in a mode/state which doesn't allow them to do it, greyed out buttons absolutely.

In some cases, greyed out buttons should be clickable (eg. forms) and that should tell the user what is wrong. Looking at you, billion dollar airline, where I couldn't complete my checkin due to this annoyance.

Also, what happened to hover messages and little (?) marks? Every software behaves like it expects me to know what to do from Day 1.

Re: 98.css

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Post by jhoechtl »

I do not understand efforts like these. It's not that 98 Windows UI design has been the paramount of UX. Today's technology bloat and layer upon layer of abastractions caused a total bloat.

Understanding what is required to make a good UX site, and idenifying the minimum neccessary technological components is it.

Re: 98.css

#96

Post by Gabrys1 »

jordanscales wrote: post #23

Author here! This was my burnout recovery project and holds a place near and dear to my heart. https://notes.jordanscales.com/98-css-reflections

Firefox (Nightly) on Android: tabs don't work: when clicking on a tab, the URL changes, there's a slight jump in content, but the new tab is not selected. Hope this helps

Re: 98.css

#97

Post by reddalo »

ithadhumor wrote: post #63

This is so clean. It reminds me of the good ol’ times.

I wish modern operating systems were like that: simple, clean, with no wasted space for decorative purposes.

Re: 98.css

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Post by redbridgerock »

jordanscales wrote: post #23

Author here! This was my burnout recovery project and holds a place near and dear to my heart. https://notes.jordanscales.com/98-css-reflections

You have brought back so many memories of mine through this one website. Thank you

Re: 98.css

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Post by self_awareness »

This one is pretty good, but it has one common flaw that other implementations have: lots of empty space between controls.

Win95/98 was very efficient in this area. Too much empty space wastes the space.

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