News from early June OP;
Some discussion then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48433410
Police removed prominent scientists from American Diabetes Association meeting
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Re: Police removed prominent scientists from American Diabetes Association meeting
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah. I have a running joke with my Endo. “A1c is good. Charts are good. No changes.” “And that’ll be 700 dollars?” “Yup. See you soon.” Of course it doesn’t actually cost that much (copay wise at least), but the point stands. I manage my disease super well. I don’t need the middle men. I’m becoming much more radical on universal healthcare the longer I’m on my own.
Why do you think universal healthcare will make it easier to get the drugs you need? I’d imagine the opposite with additional bureaucracy.
You can just check you don’t have to imagine anything
Re: Police removed prominent scientists from American Diabetes Association meeting
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you think universal healthcare will make it easier to get the drugs you need? I’d imagine the opposite with additional bureaucracy.
Why would it be bureaucracy? In places with universal healthcare, you go to the doctor, show your card, then go to your appointment. Go to the pharmacy with your script, show your card and pay whatever is left to pay, if any. That's it. No open enrollment, no surprise bills, no trying to figure out which ppo or hmo works best, no wondering if it's in network or not or any of that BS.
The apparent fear of universal healthcare many Americans seen to have is incredible.
And to call it out in a thread where someone has literally shared that they're forced to attend a pointless appointment at an exorbitant cost like that isn't itself some form of wasteful bureaucracy. But if the time and money is going to a corporation instead of the government it's better :/
Re: Police removed prominent scientists from American Diabetes Association meeting
#14surprised no one else walked out when that happened
Re: Police removed prominent scientists from American Diabetes Association meeting
#15As a Type 1 Diabetic, I just want to say: the diabetes industry is a racket. I have to repeatedly go to a doctor to get prescription refills for a drug that I have to self-manage. The doctor provides no input day-to-day, where a mis-dose is a death sentence (the first time I nearly put myself into a coma, doc was like "oh yeah that can happen: I can give you glucagon shots as a scrip". Thanks for the heads up!). But…
“ So no surprise that the ADA is a fully industry-captured organization,”
I am always imagining the doctors working together with the food industry that pours sugar into everything and the insulin producers. It’s a perfectly symbiotic relationship.
Re: Police removed prominent scientists from American Diabetes Association meeting
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you think universal healthcare will make it easier to get the drugs you need? I’d imagine the opposite with additional bureaucracy.
Why would it be bureaucracy? In places with universal healthcare, you go to the doctor, show your card, then go to your appointment. Go to the pharmacy with your script, show your card and pay whatever is left to pay, if any. That's it. No open enrollment, no surprise bills, no trying to figure out which ppo or hmo works best, no wondering if it's in network or not or any of that BS.
The US has managed to combine the worst aspects of universal/socialized health care with the worst aspects of an attempted free market system. It’s quite an achievement.
Re: Police removed prominent scientists from American Diabetes Association meeting
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah. I have a running joke with my Endo. “A1c is good. Charts are good. No changes.” “And that’ll be 700 dollars?” “Yup. See you soon.” Of course it doesn’t actually cost that much (copay wise at least), but the point stands. I manage my disease super well. I don’t need the middle men. I’m becoming much more radical on universal healthcare the longer I’m on my own.
Why do you think universal healthcare will make it easier to get the drugs you need? I’d imagine the opposite with additional bureaucracy.
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Re: Police removed prominent scientists from American Diabetes Association meeting
#18As a Type 1 Diabetic, I just want to say: the diabetes industry is a racket. I have to repeatedly go to a doctor to get prescription refills for a drug that I have to self-manage. The doctor provides no input day-to-day, where a mis-dose is a death sentence (the first time I nearly put myself into a coma, doc was like "oh yeah that can happen: I can give you glucagon shots as a scrip". Thanks for the heads up!). But…
Yeah. I have a running joke with my Endo. “A1c is good. Charts are good. No changes.” “And that’ll be 700 dollars?” “Yup. See you soon.” Of course it doesn’t actually cost that much (copay wise at least), but the point stands. I manage my disease super well. I don’t need the middle men. I’m becoming much more radical on universal healthcare the longer I’m on my own.
> I manage my disease super well.
"If it tastes good, spit it out." - Jack LaLanne
Re: Police removed prominent scientists from American Diabetes Association meeting
#19Fascinating claim that the scientists were removed for being "Partisan" in distributing information that disagreed with their opening speaker, but of course the opening speaker was somehow completely non-partisan in disagreeing with the banned scientists. I don't really see how you can possibly have it both ways.
"Apolitical is when I agree with you. Political is when I disagree with you. And this is not a political space, stop bringing politics into everything or you're out!"
"Let's compromise - if we agree we'll do it your way, if not we'll do it my way."
Re: Police removed prominent scientists from American Diabetes Association meeting
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would it be bureaucracy? In places with universal healthcare, you go to the doctor, show your card, then go to your appointment. Go to the pharmacy with your script, show your card and pay whatever is left to pay, if any. That's it. No open enrollment, no surprise bills, no trying to figure out which ppo or hmo works best, no wondering if it's in network or not or any of that BS.
The US has managed to combine the worst aspects of universal/socialized health care with the worst aspects of an attempted free market system. It’s quite an achievement.
It works as intended. It's a part of cutthroat capitalism. The goal here is to make sure that basic service is unevenly distributed so that people who don't have it are motivated to work extra hard and get it.