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A taxonomy of omnicidal futures involving artificial intelligence (2025)

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Re: A taxonomy of omnicidal futures involving artificial intelligence (2025)

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'Some' is doing a lot of heavy lifting there...

We're like 3 years into these things being able to write a coherent sentence and you're finding comfort that only some people are dating these systems?

no, the point is that you'd be in a ceaseless never-ending panic if you cared or related the hobbies of 'some' people to mean anything in real life.

Re: A taxonomy of omnicidal futures involving artificial intelligence (2025)

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It’s a good book but I didn’t agree that the big problem would be men lacking meaning because they didn’t have to work. They had families, homes and food. They could have devoted themselves to personal improvement, art, sports, their kids, whatever. I’d love to have security and no job. I’d be full to the brim with meaning and satisfaction.

> I’d love to have security and no job. I’d be full to the brim with meaning and satisfaction. Same. I have plenty of hobbies and could increase the amount of volunteer work I do substantially if I didn't have to work to stay fed and housed. But I've also worked with plenty of people for whom their job and their overall identity are inexorably intertwined. So while I don't see that issue as being a problem for me , i…

> But I've also worked with plenty of people for whom their job and their overall identity are inexorably intertwined.

Is that an argument for or against jobs? Because one way to look at it is that they didn't develop a personality and identity at all, because they just attached themselves to a job. When that inevitably ends anyway, sooner or later, one way or another, a deep pit of nothing. That's one reason to rip the bandaid off right away.

But IMO even more importantly, how much room do people who do what the environment tells them, who let their job tell them who they are, have for inner dialogue? The worst things in the world were and are enabled by people "just doing their job", and if they have no identity outside of their job, there's someone just following orders waiting to happen. So from what would distress them, being rid of a crutch and an ear piece where a person would otherwise grow, follows that it is in their and all of our best interest to pay no mind to it.

Their new job will be to get a life and become a person. Maybe someone can print out some papers that make it look official, and they can get a monthly letter telling them they earned N personality dollars this month, good job, keep it up, thanks, company.

Re: A taxonomy of omnicidal futures involving artificial intelligence (2025)

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The eschatological obsession these days is really getting quite tired.

Yes, but the word “eschatological” should really be avoided in regular online discussion, since it is obscure and can easily be replaced in this instance with “doomsday,” which everyone understands.

Of course, feel free to use “eschatological” when discussing Mahler symphonies, especially 2, 5, and 9!

Re: A taxonomy of omnicidal futures involving artificial intelligence (2025)

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post #8

I recently read Kurt Vonnegut “Player Piano”, a novel that addresses automation taking over the economy. It’s not explicitly AI but addresses the same issues. Published in 1952, it was Vonneguts first novel and a real product of the post war era.[1] Another interesting read that addresses these themes is “Manna – Two Views of Humanity’s Future” by Marshal Brain [2] [1] https://antilogicalism.com/wp-content/uploads/20…

It’s a good book but I didn’t agree that the big problem would be men lacking meaning because they didn’t have to work. They had families, homes and food. They could have devoted themselves to personal improvement, art, sports, their kids, whatever. I’d love to have security and no job. I’d be full to the brim with meaning and satisfaction.

I agree, but the reaction to AI is making me realize that there are a whole bunch of people who don’t know how to find meaning in their lives

Re: A taxonomy of omnicidal futures involving artificial intelligence (2025)

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post #22

Or you can read the summarized version every one of these articles: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AIIsACrapshoot

Yes, as I get bombarded with non stop ads. No thanks!

I don't get even a single ad on that TV Tropes page.

Do you not use an adblocker?

Re: A taxonomy of omnicidal futures involving artificial intelligence (2025)

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post #14
post #3

The first "scenario" starts with this description > By 2026, when a human with a customer service inquiry has to deal with another human instead of a robot, they get upset and ask to speak to a machine instead. It's genuinely astonishing how out of touch some people are!

In 2026, people do already prefer to use an LLM for coding help rather than Stackoverflow. The reasons (people on SO can be rude, interactions are stressful, replies are slow, etc) are all risks associated with human interactions in general. Similarly, many people prefer Waymos to human-driven taxis already!

It isnt the humanness of stack overflow, if anything its the absence of human feeling.

I can search and search, and craft a long thoughtful post and it gets closed or ignored.

The LLM can take a malformed sentence and work out what I am after.

Re: A taxonomy of omnicidal futures involving artificial intelligence (2025)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a good book but I didn’t agree that the big problem would be men lacking meaning because they didn’t have to work. They had families, homes and food. They could have devoted themselves to personal improvement, art, sports, their kids, whatever. I’d love to have security and no job. I’d be full to the brim with meaning and satisfaction.

I agree, but the reaction to AI is making me realize that there are a whole bunch of people who don’t know how to find meaning in their lives

They did find it though, and then AI took it away from them.
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