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What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Post by RegEx »

idointernet wrote: post #27
jenius wrote: post #25

Dear fat, This post comes off to me as cocky and untrue. First, the general tone of this seems very pompous to me. To me, it reads: "I know so much that even building the most popular project on github and possibly of any library on the web can't teach me anything new." It might have been a little more gracious perhaps to thank people for using and contributing to the project...? Also, you definitely learned somethin…

Consider that what you are seeing in him is actually something about yourself that you can't be with.

I love when hackers try to play psychiatrist.

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Post by Killswitch »

fat wrote: post #13
sharkweek wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(speaking of cheesy) Those who just create awesome tools and release them into the ecosystem free of charge add immeasurable value to the community. I really want to thank you for how much easier you two have made my life with bootstrap on numerous occasions.

aww <3

I too would like to jump on this bandwagon of thanking you for Bootstrap. Cheers fat.

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Post by alwaysright »

I think we all should just say thanks for building this, and nothing more, well, perhaps thanks to Twitter for not claiming the code. We all should aspire to do what fat and mdo did, build something out of passion, in our spare time, that will be freely available for everyone. There is nothing that anyone can say, (including them) that will take it away from them. They belong in the hall of fame of FOSS and hacker spirit. This is true whether you like or don't like what they write in a blog post.

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Post by mmahemoff »

NathanKP wrote: post #2

Interesting... For some reason I had always assumed that Bootstrap was associated more closely with Twitter because it had the word "twitter" in the name. Now I understand why some business are so concerned with preventing other websites and people from using their name. I'm not saying that Twitter should have demanded that these guys change the name of their framework to something else, but this is a good object les…

Like all major tech companies, Twitter is in a talent recruitment battle. Having their name associated with Bootstrap can only be a good thing for them.

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Post by alwaysright »

jenius wrote: post #25

Dear fat, This post comes off to me as cocky and untrue. First, the general tone of this seems very pompous to me. To me, it reads: "I know so much that even building the most popular project on github and possibly of any library on the web can't teach me anything new." It might have been a little more gracious perhaps to thank people for using and contributing to the project...? Also, you definitely learned somethin…

I respect your honesty sharing what you really think, but I didn't read it this way, I read it as: "We spent so much time in it, and what I learned from it is how great it is to have friends do cool things together, and this is what keeps us going more than learning more CSS or JavaScript"

I think that's not cocky, and quite true. e.g. the reason they still do it, is because they enjoy the teamwork and community support, and that's the "lesson he learned" which is answering the question in the title of the post.

And besides, being the #1 project on GH and being used by any other startup out there gives him all the rights to be cocky if he wants to.

They are both deserving a BDFL title which gives you automatic immunity from being called cocky. Even if they are.

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Post by novamantis »

Domenic_S wrote: post #14
fat wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

aww <3

Same here. I'd offer to buy you a beer, but I imagine you've got plenty of those offers already ;)

I bet he's swimming in beer donations that have filled his pool.

Also, thank you Fat for making my life so much easier.

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

#47

Post by jenius »

RegEx wrote: post #41
idointernet wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider that what you are seeing in him is actually something about yourself that you can't be with.

I love when hackers try to play psychiatrist.

haha yea wait i read this and was like what exactly... what?

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Post by jenius »

fat wrote: post #30
jenius wrote: post #25

Dear fat, This post comes off to me as cocky and untrue. First, the general tone of this seems very pompous to me. To me, it reads: "I know so much that even building the most popular project on github and possibly of any library on the web can't teach me anything new." It might have been a little more gracious perhaps to thank people for using and contributing to the project...? Also, you definitely learned somethin…

hm… sorry it came off that way. :( fwiw, the amount of technical things i've learned from working on bootstrap is not proportional to the amount of work i've put into this project… at all. But, i never expected it to be, and that's totally fine. Have I learned any technical things? lol sure, of course! Funnily, the accessibility thing you linked to wasn't really something I learned building bootstrap… the presentatio…

great response. i see what you're getting at from this and other peoples' replies - that the most important thing you learned was that doing hoodrat stuff with your friends is awesome. The only reason i posted this was because it read to me like this was the only thing you learned rather than the most important thing.

i really like what you've written here though, makes it a lot more clear. have you considered adding some pieces of this comment to the article?

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Post by DanBlake »

Is twitter trying to claim ownership over bootstrap? I assume you 2 guys left twitter to do this as-a-living. The post reads like a "Twitter does not own this, we made it on our own time, Its just the two of us, etc. etc."

Do you even need to worry about this? Pretty sure since its open source you guys are fine, unless something in your twitter employment contract says otherwise. That being said, Bootstrap is a valuable asset to the web and I think you would be not-paranoid in assuming that twitter might want to call it a asset it owns.

Step 1 for you guys should really be moving from http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ to http://domainyouownpersonally.com

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Post by mark_h »

DanBlake wrote: post #49

Is twitter trying to claim ownership over bootstrap? I assume you 2 guys left twitter to do this as-a-living. The post reads like a "Twitter does not own this, we made it on our own time, Its just the two of us, etc. etc." Do you even need to worry about this? Pretty sure since its open source you guys are fine, unless something in your twitter employment contract says otherwise. That being said, Bootstrap is a valua…

Mark Otto owns getbootstrap.com by the looks of it, which at the moment just redirects to the github site.
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