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DARPA, U.S. Air Force fly AI-controlled F-16

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Re: DARPA, U.S. Air Force fly AI-controlled F-16

#82

The article smells of AI psychosis. They are already "orchestrating". In the first Iraq war, they went in and won. In the second one, it took years to sort of occupy the country. Now they struggle against Iran and "orchestrate" F-16s that can be shot down instantly by AA weapons. Since COVID the world has collectively lost its mind.

> The article smells of AI psychosis...

China has been doing something similar since 2020 [0] and something we've experimented [1] on for decades [2][3].

They have traditionally been used as target aircraft for training, but a subset are now being used as testbeds for networked ops.

[0] - https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pacific/2021/10/20/c...

[1] - https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/467196/first...

[2] - https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/1045...

[3] - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:QF-4E_GulfofMexico_1...

Re: DARPA, U.S. Air Force fly AI-controlled F-16

#83

The article smells of AI psychosis. They are already "orchestrating". In the first Iraq war, they went in and won. In the second one, it took years to sort of occupy the country. Now they struggle against Iran and "orchestrate" F-16s that can be shot down instantly by AA weapons. Since COVID the world has collectively lost its mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gulf_War_Did_Not_Take_Plac...

Bush Sr knew to keep the foreign-compromised media out of the war and so accomplished the objectives of the war swiftly. Bush Jr had to deal with the media second guessing everything.

Re: DARPA, U.S. Air Force fly AI-controlled F-16

#85

The article smells of AI psychosis. They are already "orchestrating". In the first Iraq war, they went in and won. In the second one, it took years to sort of occupy the country. Now they struggle against Iran and "orchestrate" F-16s that can be shot down instantly by AA weapons. Since COVID the world has collectively lost its mind.

Oh what a great CIA campaign that would be to give the impression that U.S. military isn’t up to par - to motivate and trick our enemies into making stupid moves while we keep our true cards hidden.

Such a crazy thought.

Re: DARPA, U.S. Air Force fly AI-controlled F-16

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Autonomous driving is still nowhere near 100%, so why suddenly jump to fighter jets? Is this more of Hegseth's foolhardy bluster and injected testosterone? The tech isn't ready. They should start with golf-karts, not fighter planes. ----------- Edit: Okay gang. If aircraft are easier to fly than cars are to drive, where are all your pilot licenses? If you've faced rush hour traffic, flying a military jet should be a…

Fighter jets don't need 100%. In a war, we accept a much higher rate of casualties than we do in day to day driving. I would also imagine that while planes are harder for a person to pilot, they are easier for a computer. Most of what makes them hard is mechanical, not dealing with unexpected situations.

Re: DARPA, U.S. Air Force fly AI-controlled F-16

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Absolutely terrifying. I'm sure they will soon find that AI pilots defeat human ones in dogfights 100% of the time, since they have faster reaction times, can tolerate higher G forces, and can be perfectly RL trained in the flight sims we already have. It's really incredible to me that people aren't protesting in the streets over this stuff. Just in the last month we have * AI that goes rogue and hacks billion-dollar…

Are dogfights still relevant? Isn't it mostly shooting missiles outside of visual range these days?

yeah well beyond the line of sight

you're either stealth, or you're a target.

they're shooting 6+ R-37s a day in Ukraine, for example

Re: DARPA, U.S. Air Force fly AI-controlled F-16

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> The kit utilizes a novel interface with the aircraft’s flight controls and mission systems, allowing a pilot to toggle between traditional human control and AI control with the flip of a switch. This ensures a safe, reliable environment for human-on-the-loop experimentation. How, exactly, does that ensure a safe reliable environment? Humans are pretty bad at suddenly taking over when an automatic system reaches its…

This stuff actually gets tested, it's not your typical web framework junk.
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