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Does creatine make you smarter?

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Re: Does creatine make you smarter?

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In my experience, it wont make you smarter but my brain just feels more energized to think.

It clears my brainfog. But I'm burned out because of 3 years in crunch mode doing a one man startup and chronically sleep deprived because of small children. So I'm definitely in the stressed category.

Re: Does creatine make you smarter?

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I have definitely noticed improvements taking a larger dose with my energy when low on sleep, check out McMorris et al. (2006) which is not cited here. I agree it probably doesn't make you generally more 'smart' but it does may improve function under stress, e.g. when sleep deprived, also see Gordji-Nejad et al. (2024). I think the sleep benefits should at least be mentioned in this article. Also search for 'sleep' i…

I was missing both the effects for the sleep deprived and the elderly in the article. Particularly those with dementia.

Re: Does creatine make you smarter?

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I'm an endurance cyclist, and I take 5g on ride days (4/week). I started based on this study (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15502783.2023.2...). In short, it does have some benefits for endurance sports by enhancing surges in intensity such as climbing or the finishing kick. I've noticed some muscle mass increase, including my upper body, but nothing I would consider dramatic. I can't say I've experienced any mental effects, though I haven't taken an IQ test in decades, so who am I to say?

Re: Does creatine make you smarter?

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I switched from creatine to eating pickled herring or steak instead. It's WAY more expensive, but considering I don't live in a country with very great control over stuff like adulterants, I'll definitely elect for tasty and safe. Each 2-ounce rollmop contains about a gram or two of creatine, sometimes more. Steak is about a gram per 8 ounces. If you can afford it, it's way nicer than choking down that powder in wate…

if you added back the creatine along with the herring, you could become a superhero.

Not likely. There's a saturation point where excess just gets filtered out by your kidneys.

Re: Does creatine make you smarter?

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post #138

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Creatine is a health fad? No other supplement has been this widely-used for such a long time. It was considered safe and effective when I started using it 30 years ago. The benefits are/were well established, the mechanisms well-known, the safety is impeccable. If anything, it's the most well-established supplement on the market - the exact opposite of a fad!

OP was asking why the attention now though specifically. I'm not calling it quackery, etc.

My point is that creatine has had significant attention on it for decades. OP perceives an increase in attention but that's just a reflection of their knowledge (Baader–Meinhof effect)

Re: Does creatine make you smarter?

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post #11

Good discussion, but this conclusion: > I don’t know. Maybe a little. is not the right way to interpret the null result (insufficient evidence to reject null hypothesis that it has no effect) because the prior for supplements that people are trying to sell you is so low. In the absence of clear, strong evidence, you should assume the the whole thing is just an example of motivated reasoning. People want nootropics to…

I think this is quite different because (1) creatine has been proven to be completely harmless for people of all ages absent some rare thing like a kidney disorder and (2) it has a bunch of clearly measurable positive effects. So this is more like trying to determine whether ginseng is good at keeping away colds or whatever. Maybe it does (actually quickly searching this, it definitely does but let's pretend it's as…

> (2) it has a bunch of clearly measurable positive effects.

Clearly measurably neutrally and scientifically -- or clearly measurable as measured by supplement company funding studies or cherry-picked by health influencers?

Re: Does creatine make you smarter?

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Magnesium? Its widely known that magnesium is used by the body lol What they “doubt” is that it can be absorbed through the skin. But anyone who takes magnesium tablets can tell you the effect is the same. And it is studied btw - problem is there are countless on both sides.

> Magnesium? Its widely known that magnesium is used by the body lol Who disputed this? > What they “doubt” is that it can be absorbed through the skin The science is helpful. Magnesium sulfate is absorbed less effectively than magnesium chloride. Of course, you're not eating the amount of Epsom salts one dumps in a bath. > And it is studied btw - problem is there are countless on both sides This is why meta analysis…

> Magnesium sulfate is absorbed less effectively

Drinking the same Epsom salt in water that you soak in has the same effect as soaking in hot or cold water with it, and it's also the same effect as taking magnesium supplements sold over the counter.

You can try it yourself - totally safe. You already eat magnesium all the time.

Whatever you're doing with your comment, I'm not convinced.

Re: Does creatine make you smarter?

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"poses no danger to your hair" I keep hearing folks say this, and even in this thread there's someone who's experienced that and had it stop when they eliminated creatine. I too have experienced exactly that with exactly the stopping of issues once I stopped taking creatine. Perhaps you can say "danger to your hair is rare", but there's very clearly (to me at least) an effect there, and the way it gets hand-waved awa…

Do you do anything else for hair? Like Minoxidil, Finasteride, or other serums/etc. Just curious for other folks experiences as they are on or off creatine in parallel with other hair interventions.

I have normal hair, and probably less hair loss than is average for someone my age. I don't use products on it. Aside from this issue, it's been clear sailing the whole time.

Re: Does creatine make you smarter?

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People have no idea how successful big pharma’s info campaign has been since what I’m increasingly calling the real Web 3.0 (post-influencer social media and arrival of big corporate narratives). According to Reddit, Epsom salt has no effect (doesn’t absorb) - you’re wasting your time by using it. They’ll cite all sorts of real, funded studies that agree and yet always the comment section is filled with anecdotal evi…

Lots of state actors criticizing the US too. Bots everywhere.

30-50% of social media at this point

"look to the left of you, look to the right of you, one of you isn't real"

Re: Does creatine make you smarter?

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I have severe sleep apnea as well as insomnia. I may also be a multi-phasic sleeper. In any case my average sleep per night is ~3.5 hours with only ~1.5 hours of deep sleep. I use light therapy, CPAP, medications, etc but none of it solves my problems. I started taking creatine daily a couple of months ago. I've noticed a significant uptick in my cognitive abilities, despite being constantly sleep deprived. TFA doesn…

For sleep apnea you may look into playing the didgeridoo for 30 minutes a day. The circular breathing every day really improve people's symptoms, and I've heard you see results after a few weeks or months. I'm in the middle of trying this but unfortunately I just haven't been doing it every day. I've also heard just practicing circular breathing by blowing through a straw into a cup of water can produce the same effe…

this is trolling, right?
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