Startup founders urge U.S. government not to shut off Chinese open weight AI

Post by WarmWash » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 4:07 PM UTC

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US's court can enforce IPs. Didn't Antrhpic just agree to pay book authors billion for the recent lawsuit settlement?

Anthropic was asked to pay book authors because it trained on pirated downloaded books. What about books and art where the author/artist does not authorise AI to train on it? They do happily train on it, ignoring their "ToS". This is just double standards, a slap on the wrist to not worsen the situation with authors imo. You could also say the Chinese companies are doing the same - they _do_ pay for their Anthropic s…

Post by GlickWick » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 4:07 PM UTC

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I do care. It's an unfortunate truth that we're exiting a global peace era and entering one of (hopefully just...) implied conflict. Our biggest geopolitical rival that's been threatening a hot war also distilling the things we build is not a good thing. Trump is a huge self-own by our electorate sadly, but being concerned about a conflict between China and the US is a very bi-partisan concern for good reason.

> It's an unfortunate truth that we're exiting a global peace era You’re a tiny bit late on that one

Post by ch4s3 » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 4:07 PM UTC

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US real median household income has been steadily rising[1] for the last 40+ years. Life expectancy is rising again after dipping and plateauing for a few years. Employment numbers are pretty good given the macro headwinds. The US forms ~5.9 million new businesses per year which vastly out paces the EU. The US isn't without problems, but we're doing OK. [1] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N It's incred…

Maybe break down those numbers by income and you'll see that rich people are doing fine, everyone else not so much.

Post by 1234letshaveatw » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 4:07 PM UTC

chews wrote: post #132

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I do care. It's an unfortunate truth that we're exiting a global peace era and entering one of (hopefully just...) implied conflict. Our biggest geopolitical rival that's been threatening a hot war also distilling the things we build is not a good thing. Trump is a huge self-own by our electorate sadly, but being concerned about a conflict between China and the US is a very bi-partisan concern for good reason.

Wow, what happened to no holds barred American capitalism? Is it bad when the Chinese somehow do it better? The US stateowning US Steal, Intel, and possibly openai is no different than the Chinese ownership model… and before the US took stakes in the companies they were just bankrolling them as customers SpaceX Oracle etal. If life is a meritocracy, you gotta give it to the Chinese for their immense growth and improv…

Post by myrmidon » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 4:07 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #71

ninjahawk1 wrote: post #34

The U.S. does NOT have copyright protections on the data that AI models were and are trained on, it was mass theft. Now all of a sudden, the Chinese are stealing from the thieves and we’re supposed to care? No one cares, we just want cheaper AI models that are equally as powerful. They’re all thieves regardless.

This is a silly argument. Like yes, obviously it’s of less U.S. concern if one American is robbing another versus a foreign interest. We can deal with one whenever while the other creates constraints. The better arguments are the ones made in the article. Open weights increase competition and thus AI availability in the U.S. economy.