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What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Interesting... For some reason I had always assumed that Bootstrap was associated more closely with Twitter because it had the word "twitter" in the name. Now I understand why some business are so concerned with preventing other websites and people from using their name. I'm not saying that Twitter should have demanded that these guys change the name of their framework to something else, but this is a good object les…

Sounds like "sponsored" would be a good word to describe the relationship

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Technical issue, but... is the "Recommend" button doing anything? (or supposed to be doing?) I push it and nothing happens.

Redirects here for me: https://medium.com/m/signin?redirect=%2Fwhat-i-learned-build...

Check your javascript console for errors

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Not what I expected from the link-baity HN post title, that post does not actually tell us what he learned at all, if anything.

Not complaining about the post itself, just thought it'd be very cool to have an actual "what I learned building bootstrap" post one day.

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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I met a Twitter engineer at startup school who said any side projects had to be approved by Twitter's legal team. Was this the case with Bootstrap? Also, was it put on Twitter's GitHub account in order to increase visibility?

yep, lots of legal hurdles to go through – took us like 6 months – but now they have a full time opensource shepherd @cra which makes this much smoother

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Dear fat,

This post comes off to me as cocky and untrue.

First, the general tone of this seems very pompous to me. To me, it reads: "I know so much that even building the most popular project on github and possibly of any library on the web can't teach me anything new." It might have been a little more gracious perhaps to thank people for using and contributing to the project...?

Also, you definitely learned something building bootstrap. I'm willing to bet you learned a lot of things between the few major version updates and 2,500+ issues, most of which are closed. In fact, here's a presentation that you made detailing something you learned from bootstrap (accessibility, specifically): http://wordsbyf.at/2012/05/21/jsconf-argentina-2012/

I'm really not trying to be that negative guy on hacker news, this was just my immediate reaction upon reading the post. That being said, congrats on building an immensely popular and important library, and here's to hoping that you learn and always continue learning.

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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Not what I expected from the link-baity HN post title, that post does not actually tell us what he learned at all, if anything. Not complaining about the post itself, just thought it'd be very cool to have an actual "what I learned building bootstrap" post one day.

I was thinking the same thing. All I've learned is how much power/draw the Twitter name has.

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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post #25

Dear fat, This post comes off to me as cocky and untrue. First, the general tone of this seems very pompous to me. To me, it reads: "I know so much that even building the most popular project on github and possibly of any library on the web can't teach me anything new." It might have been a little more gracious perhaps to thank people for using and contributing to the project...? Also, you definitely learned somethin…

Consider that what you are seeing in him is actually something about yourself that you can't be with.

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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post #25

Dear fat, This post comes off to me as cocky and untrue. First, the general tone of this seems very pompous to me. To me, it reads: "I know so much that even building the most popular project on github and possibly of any library on the web can't teach me anything new." It might have been a little more gracious perhaps to thank people for using and contributing to the project...? Also, you definitely learned somethin…

I think the point he was trying to get across was this: "Getting together and creating something with your friends is amazing"

Re: What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap

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post #25

Dear fat, This post comes off to me as cocky and untrue. First, the general tone of this seems very pompous to me. To me, it reads: "I know so much that even building the most popular project on github and possibly of any library on the web can't teach me anything new." It might have been a little more gracious perhaps to thank people for using and contributing to the project...? Also, you definitely learned somethin…

hm… sorry it came off that way. :(

fwiw, the amount of technical things i've learned from working on bootstrap is not proportional to the amount of work i've put into this project… at all. But, i never expected it to be, and that's totally fine.

Have I learned any technical things? lol sure, of course!

Funnily, the accessibility thing you linked to wasn't really something I learned building bootstrap… the presentation was all about how accessibility is too hard to really learn… and you need to become a specialist, which is sad times. Paul Irish wrote a great post about it a while back: http://paulirish.com/2012/accessibility-and-developers/

maybe i learned that i knew nothing, but that was about it :P

My friend Dustin (who created this writing topic on medium) asked me to write about the single most important thing i learned from working on bootstrap.

And for me, that single thing was that I love working with people and hate working alone.

It took me a while to realize that what was bumming me out the most about running bootstrap (and other projects) was that as they became more successful, there was more of an expectation that i would be working on them all the time (which meant the expectation that i would be working on them independently/alone all the time).

That's ok from time to time, but isn't why I get excited about free software and ultimately i became pretty depressed/negative about the whole thing.

I'm just now starting to identify what makes we want to continue to dedicate all my free time to a project like bootstrap. And right now, the main motivation is to spend time creating stuff with my favorite people.

I can assure you – it's definitely not to learn more about css/js !! :)

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