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OpenAI and Anthropic unite against open-weight AI risks to their bottom line

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What do you mean ~35% ?

I mean if you cut out the bottom 65% and the top 1% (but perhaps even top 5%) of americans, you are left with a group of generally affluent people who are the actual backbone of the US economy. These people work white collar career jobs, own houses, own stocks, have retirement on track, college debt paid off or soon to be, good health insurance, go on vacations, drive new(ish) cars, let their instagram impulse buying…

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Anyone who thinks these companies ever cared about any of that is naive.

I mean naivety is the default until wisdom born of experience prevails. I bought into the “do no evil” mantra of Google, and boy howdy did I learn the hard lessons from that. It’s partly not arbitrarily punishing the naive unless they refuse to learn the lesson. Invite them in, acknowledging the error in judgement, and help them to be better going forward. That’s how we win.

Capitalism creates never satiated hunger for more profits at almost any cost (even human life...see health insurance, but that's another discussion).

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Anyone who thinks these companies ever cared about any of that is naive.

Then I am naive, but I think they cared before they got powerful and chatgpt release.

At most I would buy that they convinced themselves they cared. It bought them a lot of good will at the time.

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And to think I got warned in another post that I need to be nicer/more professional in discussing this topic. Yeah. Nah. Bringing out the same drum I’ve been banging for years now , these companies have never actually cared about ensuring safe AI, regulation, or ensuring it benefits all humanity. It has always, always , been about control and their profit margins. Their actions have never reflected any sort of positi…

Yes, loved watching how people constantly got downvoted for warning this is what would happen, then it starts happening and the “yeah but” fluff starts. Corporate apologists all the way down.

ClosedAI executive literally posted that the administration should disseminate FUD through various agencies in order to protect their profits. Commodie has been crying wolf for years to protect their profits. Now they are openly literally conspiring to protect their profits.

“How could we have seen it coming?!” Easily.

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> Bringing out the same drum I’ve been banging for years now, these companies have never actually cared about ensuring safe AI, regulation, or ensuring it benefits all humanity. It has always, always, been about control and their profit margins. Their actions have never reflected any sort of positive, shared human benefit since OpenAI released ChatGPT, and they’ll never actually provide said shared benefit when it co…

What should they do instead? As far as I can tell from their actions they (Anth) are true believers about safety

My contention is that, while they've converted and employ a legion of true believers (Dario may even be one himself), the veneration and flagellation at the altar of safety and alignment is conveniently self-serving. It demands constant scrutiny, because it only serves one single goal in the end: profit via regulatory capture.

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Please explain how making it difficult to start a business and hire employees protects people. I've never understood that logic but maybe I'm missing something.

It's very simple to start a business, and it's even simpler to hire people. It is hard to fire employee, especially when the company is doing good, yes. It is a bit slow and administratively annoying to start a business in some countries, yes, though in those you can usually start operating while starting AND there are workarounds which is why there isn't enough pressure to stop it (eg, the german "pre made company s…

Depending on the country, it's not even that difficult to fire in the EU... (e.g. Estonia and Poland)

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it is not just copyrighted works. openai and anthropic and google etc hire PHDs to create datasets by solving problems, writing thinking traces. then they train their models on those datasets. also as another user said, what is this 80+ years to protect some text? its ridiculous

It's only ridiculous for the big thieves, but if you violate copyright, you'll pay dearly. Calling it ridiculous will not protect you.

Thieves…like Anthropic who literally just settled a case for pirating? Those kind of thieves?

Always better to name them outright.

Anthropic STOLE data for training. Verifiably. Admitted. In court. Then settled.[0]

You can also likely assume that OpenAI did too. There simply wasn’t enough data without having done so at least at some point in their corporate history. In fact, I seem to recall they were able to extract Harry Potter text from all the major modes[1]

https://fortune.com/2026/07/21/anthropic-copyright-settlemen... [0]

https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.02671 [1]

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> model welfare I shouldn't get in arguments about this stuff online, but have you actually sat down and thought about this in-depth? It's pretty normal to have a gut reaction that this is insane, but it's worth thinking about. If we replaced every neuron in your brain, one by one, with a silicon equivalent, would you stop being conscious? At what point? Would you be able to tell? If yes, what about if we took those…

>> If we replaced every neuron in your brain, one by one, with a silicon equivalent, would you stop being conscious? If we put your brain in a jar, would you be a person? Would you have normal consciousness? Honestly I don't know and I am not the person to ask. But the brain is just a computer metaphor has flaws, particularly when you take account how poorly the brain is understood.

Yeah absolutely, I have no objections to you looking at my thought experiments and saying "No, if you replaced every neuron with silicon I would stop being conscious". That's a totally valid conclusion and is a mainstream philosophical position. That's why they're thought experiments.

My issue was more just that people see the concept of a thinking machine and immediately reject it because it sounds silly, without thinking about it.

Re: OpenAI and Anthropic unite against open-weight AI risks to their bottom line

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And to think I got warned in another post that I need to be nicer/more professional in discussing this topic. Yeah. Nah. Bringing out the same drum I’ve been banging for years now , these companies have never actually cared about ensuring safe AI, regulation, or ensuring it benefits all humanity. It has always, always , been about control and their profit margins. Their actions have never reflected any sort of positi…

Yes, and thank China for open AI.

Re: OpenAI and Anthropic unite against open-weight AI risks to their bottom line

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In my opinion this is worth revolting about.

It is critically important to the future of your progeny, that 1-2 companies are not able to corner the AI landscape.

Open-source and open-weight or we throw ourselves on the machine worthy.

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