Do they? Is a company with $200 billion annual revenue and earnings (EBITDA) of $100 billion having $420 billion of off-balance-sheet debt really staggering? In many other industries that would be a perfectly normal amount of debt to have. It's only unusual because we are used to tech companies having so much cash on hand they don't know where to put it
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#62As long as this debt does not make it into life insurance and pension funds, we are fine. The trouble is that private credit is taking control of some life insurance companies and off-loads this debt to these. When these fail, it will become everyone's problem. > Risks to financial stability may also stem from entities with particularly high exposure to private credit markets, such as insurers influenced by private e…
At this point these companies make up a huge portion of 401k's for a huge chunk of Americans. How would it affect retirees if they dropped 40-50%, likely taking the market with them?
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#63Do they? Is a company with $200 billion annual revenue and earnings (EBITDA) of $100 billion having $420 billion of off-balance-sheet debt really staggering? In many other industries that would be a perfectly normal amount of debt to have. It's only unusual because we are used to tech companies having so much cash on hand they don't know where to put it
It is not just that they have the debt, it. is they are trying to hide the debt. Why would a legitimate company try to hide their debt?
They aren't hiding it though. The contracts are recorded in regular filings.
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#64Do they? Is a company with $200 billion annual revenue and earnings (EBITDA) of $100 billion having $420 billion of off-balance-sheet debt really staggering? In many other industries that would be a perfectly normal amount of debt to have. It's only unusual because we are used to tech companies having so much cash on hand they don't know where to put it
If 50 billion in revenue is from other companies debt spending… then You have a problem.
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#66Do they? Is a company with $200 billion annual revenue and earnings (EBITDA) of $100 billion having $420 billion of off-balance-sheet debt really staggering? In many other industries that would be a perfectly normal amount of debt to have. It's only unusual because we are used to tech companies having so much cash on hand they don't know where to put it
It is not just that they have the debt, it. is they are trying to hide the debt. Why would a legitimate company try to hide their debt?
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#67Meta, Google, Amazon, .. they can take the hit and go on.
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#68Really feels like the govt + industry, through protectionism and fear-mongering, are propping up a "Too big to fail" situation. Long term, I think the best thing the economy could do is to make training on model outputs fair-use, as suggested by Ben Thompson[1]. Short of that, the companies should enter into distillation agreements with other US labs to let them make near-Fable models. As it stands now, the companies…
AI outputs have been ruled as not even copyrightable, isn't that even better than fair use?
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#70https://asia.nikkei.com/business/technology/five-us-tech-gia...