Please, can we put the "Disable Javascript" menu back in the Developer menu
Been gone a while?
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Safari Technology Preview 248 Released
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Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am OOTL - How does the EU force competition in this context?
The EU passed laws to force Apple to allow other browser engines to run. Previously, all iOS browsers were reskinned WebKit by Apple decree.
And is there any other browser engine actually running on iOS anywhere?
Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is when compared to Firefox. Safari and now Google claim that it's for security, as the newer interfaces expose way less attack surface for malicious add-ons. I think that it's true that it does improve security, although I'm not sure that I believe Google when they say they're not doing it to stop people from blocking their main revenue source.
At least the blocker I use, uBlock Lite, isn't nerfed. It doesn't have Manifest v3-ish limitations, and can do dynamic blocking, injection, etc.
uBO Lite is exactly MV3, it has most of MV3 limitations plus its own limitations comparing to Chromium. Safari just auto converts MV3 codes to Safari's own blocking engines.
Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released
#74Safari is the only real opposition to Google based browsers at the moment. Yes Firefox is a contender, but it has no brand traction among non-power users. Google has the brand, Safari has the defaults and energy efficiencies of the growing Apple laptop/desktop market. Although not open source, I trust it far more that a Google based browser as Apple - aside from PWAs competing with their App Store - has no real incen…
> aside from PWAs competing with their App Store Yeah. Aside. Let's just ignore that Apple intentionally prevents users from using the browsers most needed feature for the common user today killing it just like they killed Flash.
Thankfully, otherwise the Web would already be ChromeOS Platform, because that is what 99% of the folks that don't use Safari would install.
Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is when compared to Firefox. Safari and now Google claim that it's for security, as the newer interfaces expose way less attack surface for malicious add-ons. I think that it's true that it does improve security, although I'm not sure that I believe Google when they say they're not doing it to stop people from blocking their main revenue source.
At least the blocker I use, uBlock Lite, isn't nerfed. It doesn't have Manifest v3-ish limitations, and can do dynamic blocking, injection, etc.
It cannot do dynamic filtering [1]. Another big one I forgot about is no CNAME uncloaking. Don't get me wrong, uBOL is still a great add on, it's just not possible to do everything you could with the manifest v2 version.
[1] https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-as...
Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released
#76It’s impressive that pinch-zooming reddit.com in-out-in-out has reliably crashed ios safari for at least a few years already. One would assume Apple gets telemetry from iphone default browser crashes, and reddit seems important enough to warrant a fix
This was fixed but then reverted. No further updates 3 months later. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305622 Not sure how this comment is related to Safari Technology Preview, though, which is Mac-only.
The only way for commoners to reach the actual devs is HN or similar, bug trackers are as useful as a wishing well.
The odds of Safari devs reading the comments on a Safari-related HN piece is quite high, and reporting long-standing bugs here might actually get fixes
See also: the biweekly ”Microsoft closed my account and is stonewalling me” post here. Those reliably manage to break the customer service blockade
Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
This was fixed but then reverted. No further updates 3 months later. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305622 Not sure how this comment is related to Safari Technology Preview, though, which is Mac-only.
The only way for commoners to reach the actual devs is HN or similar, bug trackers are as useful as a wishing well. The odds of Safari devs reading the comments on a Safari-related HN piece is quite high, and reporting long-standing bugs here might actually get fixes See also: the biweekly ”Microsoft closed my account and is stonewalling me” post here. Those reliably manage to break the customer service blockade
> The only way for commoners to reach the actual devs is HN or similar, bug trackers are as useful as a wishing well.
This is untrue for the WebKit open source project. Many of the bugs I've reported via the Bugzilla have been fixed.
Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released
#78Since they nixed uBlock Origin Safari has not been a serious web browser to me. No amount of technology can make up for it.
wblock ftw https://github.com/0xCUB3/wBlock
Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released
#79It’s impressive that pinch-zooming reddit.com in-out-in-out has reliably crashed ios safari for at least a few years already. One would assume Apple gets telemetry from iphone default browser crashes, and reddit seems important enough to warrant a fix
This was fixed but then reverted. No further updates 3 months later. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305622 Not sure how this comment is related to Safari Technology Preview, though, which is Mac-only.
On the other hand, Reddit is trying so hard to funnel users to their app that this bug might solve itself at some point.
Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released
#80I cannot use a browser that is owned by a company who's financial model is dependent upon browsers being nerfed. Apple and Google have far too many incentives to wall garden browsers, Apple due to the app store, Google due to advertising. Independent browsers are the only safe path forward.
What did they nerf
Nothing. This is just FUD.