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Post by wccrawford » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 12:55 PM UTC

TwoFerMaggie wrote: post #213

nixgeek wrote: post #165

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I think I’m on the upper end of what’s normal in U.S. but also not super abnormal either — 1. Four lines on Google Fi is about $220 per month for “Unlimited”. 2. Comcast is $95 per month for 1Gbps. 3. A regular cinema ticket is $22.83 to the nearest movie theater and that isnt a "premium" thing like IMAX.

> A regular cinema ticket is $22.83 to the nearest movie theater and that isnt a "premium" thing like IMAX For about that price you can get a monthly subscription to a lot of local cinemas and unlimited viewings here. In my city all three cinemas are in this system so we just go see a movie whenever we want. Doesn't include IMAX ones and chains of course. https://mein.cineville.de/en/order

Some of the US theatres (Regal, for instance) have something like that, too.

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Post by markovs_gun » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 12:59 PM UTC

poetril wrote: post #5

I feel like half of what I do on HN is talk about Kagi. I switch to Kagi in 2023, and haven't looked back. Between vim keybinds for navigating search, explicit AI opt-in, the ability to curate search (block sites, increase others), and more. It really lets me feel like I can control my search tool, and at least so far its felt like our interests are aligned, I give them money and they make sure search is as good as p…

What tier do you use for it? I would like to use Kagi, but it seems really expensive for the lower tiers. I may be overestimating how much I use search but it seems like it is pretty limiting.

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Post by ggirelli » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 1:24 PM UTC

Any thoughts on Uruky? Just found it by searching for a Europe-based Kagi alternative. https://uruky.com

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Post by sanderjd » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 1:24 PM UTC

watwut wrote: post #204

sanderjd wrote: post #119

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This is the thesis, I understand the thesis, I remain skeptical of it. In my view, search sucks now primarily because there just isn't much worth searching for on the open web anymore. I think the "it's Google's fault" thesis is mostly an unwillingness to admit this.

To large extend, that content stopped dying after Google deprioritized it in search results. People stopped being able to find it, sites/communities stopped having views, authors gave up. I stopped caring about my blog about that time - after I was unable to google my own postd. I remembered the name and some of the content, but it was just not coming up in the search. There was also noticeable drop in views. I kind…

I could be convinced of this narrative. Like, if someone writes a book about this, with good evidence of what caused this to happen, I might find that persuasive.

But to me, what happened was social media and video becoming the locus of attention. I don't think people stopped putting content on independent websites because their traffic from search results went down, I think they just started putting content on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and YouTube and TikTok instead. To me, the whole way the web is used just changed over this period of time, in ways that mostly had very little to do with Google's search algorithm.

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Post by gtirloni » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 1:34 PM UTC

Switched to Kagi a few years ago and don't even consider other options anymore. It's miles ahead of others.

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Post by protimewaster » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 1:38 PM UTC

driverdan wrote: post #155

201984 wrote: post #106

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Depends on your financial situation, but $10 is nothing these days. That's the price of a bougie coffee, half the price of going out to eat, half the price of a movie ticket, or less than 2 gallons of gas in some states. For most people here, it's probably 20min of labor after taxes or less, for something you use constantly. You pay several times more, possibly 10x more, for the internet you use Kagi on. Really not a…

It's nothing until you have to buy a $10/m subscription for every basic thing you do, then it adds up.

That's what gets me too. I've been tasked previously to help a young relative with budgeting, and there were so many "It's only $x a month!" items we found that it was ridiculous.

It's pushed me in the other direction, away from subscriptions. For most things, if I see that it's being sold as a subscription, I just walk away. Obviously this doesn't work for internet service, etc., but it's possible to avoid for most things.

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Post by bayindirh » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 1:42 PM UTC

SyneRyder wrote: post #178

Shadowmist wrote: post #22

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Do they let you chose to not send your search queries to say Yandex or Google?

No, they don't, and I had a feedback request back in September 2024 about that: https://kagifeedback.org/d/4727-option-to-choose-or-exclude-... I ended up quitting Kagi over that and built my own search engine for my own use. But if the comments here are correct that Kagi are trying to build their own index that replaces all the others, that would be great news. It seems lots of people still like Kagi regardless of t…

Yes, Kagi is building its own index, and try to mix it more and more if it finds results from it.

More details are at: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm...

Also, for every query, it shows a short infoline telling the index distribution.

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Post by protimewaster » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 1:43 PM UTC

konart wrote: post #199

201984 wrote: post #130

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People are no longer buying internet to use google, nor buying gas for cars? The others I understand, I'm cutting back on them too.

>nor buying gas for cars In many countries car is not something essential thanks to public transport. And some people [who own a car] actually stop using one when prices for gas go over the bar unless they absolutely have to.

> In many countries car is not something essential thanks to public transport.

Is that true in many entire countries? It seems like most of the countries I've visited, there are usually places within the country where transit isn't very good, and if you point at a map and say "I want to visit this part of the county" the answer is "You should rent a car, because there's no good transit connection there."

I absolutely believe this to be true in many cities, though.

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Post by Larrikin » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 2:12 PM UTC

inigyou wrote: post #220

Larrikin wrote: post #86

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What's wrong with Firefox and AdNauseum?

You're the product in Firefox, just a different kind than in chrome. Ad Nauseam is silly because ad companies know they are fake clicks and don't count them. Ads aren't the only thing you'd need to block from the internet.

There is zero evidence Ad Nauseum does not work, but there are plenty of signals it does. Google banned it from the Chrome store and setting any threshold below one hundred percent click rate just uses random.

Even if it is somehow detectable it's just Ublock origin and not every ad network is worth billions of dollars

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Post by BiteCode_dev » Thu, Jul 23, 2026, 2:29 PM UTC

I don't know, I tried kagi but it doesn't seem to have superior results to even ddg. It's even worse for non english content.

ChatGPT is better than their agent at everything, firefox extensions can filter domains and ads out of the search results while preventing tracking nand I don't even have to create an account for any of those.

Not to mention I actually mostly use search engines to for stuff that are not fuzzy anymore (since discovery with them are now terrible anyway), so I don't get that much value.

I really want to like kagi, it ticks all the boxes, but it misses a killer feature that would make me use it instead of alternatives that just do what I need.