Live data from Hacker News

EU fines Google €890M for competition breaches over search and apps

theguardian.com

11–20 of 199 posts

Re: EU fines Google €890M for competition breaches over search and apps

#11
post #9

google: 1 - restore interop with noscript/basic HTML browsers, stop favoring your 'whatwg cartel' web engine. 2 - gmail: restore interop with self-hosted SMTP servers without DNS (filtering on the IPv[46] literal from email address, this is stronger than SPF). And there is probably more to add.

What exactly monopoly is here?

Re: EU fines Google €890M for competition breaches over search and apps

#13
post #2

EU regulatory apparatus is maybe only part of the EU which is operates without obsequiousness to the US; on the one hand, this is necessary assertion of sovereignty, on the other you fear for the wider collateral damage which will inevitably ensue. Trump gonna respond to this with an escalation for sure

[flagged]

[flagged]

Re: EU fines Google €890M for competition breaches over search and apps

#14
post #12
post #4

For Google this is just like parking tickets to UPS. A cost of doing business in town.

When fines became casual? Is it like taxes?

It is functionally just a form of tax that can't be offshored.

Corporations reliably break the law, the EU reliably enforces it.

I'm actually happy that this is the path the EU went, as there's a financial incentive to keep laws which benefit consumers.

Re: EU fines Google €890M for competition breaches over search and apps

#16
post #4

For Google this is just like parking tickets to UPS. A cost of doing business in town.

this comment always comes up and it's _wrong_. The goal of the regulation is to get the operators to comply, which they usually do after fines (EDIT: and litigations and whining, of course), because the costs of infractions are increased if they don't comply.

The cost increases, but given the revenue Google generates how is that not just a tax?

I've never received a dollar from the EU as a victim. If the fines are moderate and big co keeps paying that's steady revenue for the EU institutions.

Re: EU fines Google €890M for competition breaches over search and apps

#18
post #12
post #4

For Google this is just like parking tickets to UPS. A cost of doing business in town.

When fines became casual? Is it like taxes?

No of course not. Ireland makes sure Google doesn't pay the minimum tax rate in the EU:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/business/companies/arid-417489...

€4.536bn on €86.6bn, or about 5% (which is one third of the amount Ireland promised in an international treaty they would charge ...)

Re: EU fines Google €890M for competition breaches over search and apps

#19
post #4

For Google this is just like parking tickets to UPS. A cost of doing business in town.

this comment always comes up and it's _wrong_. The goal of the regulation is to get the operators to comply, which they usually do after fines (EDIT: and litigations and whining, of course), because the costs of infractions are increased if they don't comply.

The issue is they usually comply with the specific law being broken, and then immediately stop complying with a different law

The goal should be to incentivise them to comply with the law as a whole, not to keep deliberately breaking different sections of the law to make profit above the level of fines

That's why people want the level of the fines to go up, to disincentivise the more broad lawbreaking

Post reply on HN