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Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by slifin »

benjiro29 wrote: post #84

As somebody who did plenty of scraping for his own little projects, lets just say that reddit their security concerns are just PR for "we do not want to keep supporting old.reddit". While yes, you can not simply scrap new reddit as easily as a pure html scraper is cheaper to run. And while the new reddit its js "slow down" scraping as it need to run over a headless browser. Do you slow scraping down a lot? No. Becaus…

I can't use new reddit - old reddit lets me disable infinite scroll

I think all major platforms should have an option to disable infinite scroll

Otherwise I look up and its 3 hours later

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by BoxwoodSeed »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #302
20k wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're just trying to manufacture a reason to kill off old reddit. Someone internally clearly hates the fact that its still quite popular, despite all the efforts to make it unusable so far

New Reddit for my phone has decided to put a bottom popup forcing me to the app. The second old goes away I’ll never go that site again except for search results. I ADORE that a publicly traded tech giant is so fucking stupid.

I won't even go there for search results, as new reddit is unusable to me. Too many clicks to get anywhere. It's quite surprising that so many people seem to have no issue with it.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by Melatonic »

nothercastle wrote: post #281
avadodin wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Old–school forums never left, still inhabited by the few boomers and genXers who could figure out the Internets back in the day and aren't dead yet. The gamification of Reddit and the ephemeral nature of the main page along with subreddits with varying amounts of overlap contributed to more active interactions, though. Some of the volume was lower quality but not all. The boomer posts about his petunia breeding progr…

Forms are sadly dead. They cost a lot to operate and maintain security updates for so without a critical mass of users they are dead

Subaru forums are all somehow going strong

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by windward »

egorfine wrote: post #440

As a heavy reddit user since the glorious Digg times... what's up with this "old reddit" thing? I vaguely remember some problems with new reddit initially. But the "new" frontend looks nice to me in all aspects. What am I missing?

Absurdly, it is much faster to browse between pages using old reddit.

Seriously, try it out. I wonder if the person who created a ticket for implementing the progress bar ever wondered if it was symptom of a greater problem?

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by user43928 »

inigyou wrote: post #456
stevenwoo wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got suspended for criticizing the state of Israel’s treatment of civilians in occupied territories, but they didn’t delete my account, though I stopped logging in after a week. (Logging in retains your subscriptions). I've seen plenty of similar comments to mine so I assume it was the work of some oddball who I responded to that has an connection to somebody who works there so they could pull some strings to suspen…

It isn't safe to criticise Israel on nearly any online platform. You should only ever do it with a throwaway account and a VPN, and Reddit bans VPNs.

At the same time Reddit was hosting Arabic speaking subreddits with communities that openly support terrorist groups.

Considering that some of the content may well be illegal in a few EU countries, I was surprised Reddit does not more proactively nuke it to protect themselves.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by windward »

wwalexander wrote: post #31

Another fun New Reddit quirk: on iOS, the un-dismissable “better in the app” popover makes scroll stop working, meaning you can’t scroll up to get the iOS-native “Open in App” toolbar that actually opens the app, so your only option is to click their hand-rolled button that just opens the App Store listing, or reload the page and tap the native “Open in App” button before the popover reappears.

As an opinionated 'power user' type, I've become used to experiencing friction on web 2.0. So for example I sometimes have to make accommodations because my adblocker or user scripts aren't working with a change on a site. I also find myself doing a lot of captchas, because I use a VPN. That's not unexpected: I'm treading an unhappy path, I shouldn't expect my usage to be considered when these changes are made.

But what I find increasingly common is that I run into these kinds of frictions even when I do behave as a normie. So even if I do install the official Reddit app, I'll end up going through the broken flow you've described. Or I'll make an account and be immediately given a shadowban for being a 'bot'. Or I'll see cookie prompts interfere with login prompts interfering with app prompts.

Devs aren't even making things work outside their own setup now.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by windward »

Melatonic wrote: post #393
impish9208 wrote: post #122

I feel like Richard Hendricks in the show Silicon Valley was on the right track with his new internet project. It seemed too idealistic back then, but it’s clear that the modern internet needs to be burned to the ground (or kept barely alive to keep the PMs, MBAs, growth hackers and slop farmers busy). How do you bootstrap a new humans-only network without doing the whole eyeball scanning thing though?

Never thought of this until now but what if you had some kind of pay system that worked more like an escrow-ish service ? So initially you have to pay some small sum. Eventually sometime not too long after (Hours? Days?) your money is returned to you. Make it pricey enough to deter large bot spam (some will of course still pay for single bots) and cheap enough to be affordable for most. Like putting a quarter in a sh…

This is similar to X's model, where every reply section is full of bluetick OF bots.

Cheap enough for humans and too expensive for bots have a big overlap.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by numpad0 »

garciasn wrote: post #316
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

New Reddit for my phone has decided to put a bottom popup forcing me to the app. The second old goes away I’ll never go that site again except for search results. I ADORE that a publicly traded tech giant is so fucking stupid.

Their users and those users data are the product; you are insignificant in the eyes of their shareholders.

Management wanting a thing to be the core value and what the core value is are different. Tumblr didn't hold its shape long enough to hit the ground physically when its new owner did what seemed perfectly reasonable to them.
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