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Or you could go for a paid service without the ads. And we don't sell your data :) http://fastmail.fm /bias
gmail sells your data?
Gmail.com was down
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As soon as Yahoo shows me my inbox instead of an ad when I sign in, I'd consider going back. Until then, all the wasted time clicking away from the ad cancels any extra uptime. Luckily I've heard Marissa is actually pushing for this change :)
Well, outlook.com / live.com email is pretty nice nowadays. I'm tempted to forward my personal gmail stuff there for a while to see how it holds up.
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That's about the right amount of time for reality to imitate parody.
Obligatory: http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-everything-were-doing-... February 2004 http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2005-09-14/gillettes-fiv... September 2005
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So you have redundant internet connections, back-up power generators, a high availability cluster, etc? That seems like a lot of money just to host your own mail server.
- I've run my home server. They would crash randomly and usually when something else in the house like a water heater had broken. - I've run pay servers in the cloud. Then they magically disappear because the expiration date on my credit card updated and the best way for GoDaddy to tell me was to wipe it and then send me an email. - I've tried free servers. I got what I paid for. Whatever problems GMail has (and it d…
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Yeah. We use glusterfs to handle the IMAP sync between multiple VMs for HA IMAP. SMTP MX clustering is pretty straightforward in comparison:)
How well would glusterfs work across the Internet? Doing local HA with some kind of SAN seems fine, but the thing I'm trying to solve is "entire datacenter goes down, make the user have no more pain than making a new imap connection". It seems like something that would really need to be handled inside IMAP (using some crazy backing store for mail, like a database) to be done well, but maybe filesystem level replicati…
Re: Gmail.com was down
#306Probably not the time to rub people's face in it, but I host my own mail server because of crap like this. Thread from the other day: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4886236
Meh, I've had my Gmail for a little over 6 years now. This is the first time I ever remember having this problem. (My Gmail is back up now, by the way.) I'll take this frequency over the effort it takes to maintain my own mail server any day.
Re: Gmail.com was down
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That's about the right amount of time for reality to imitate parody.
Obligatory: http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-everything-were-doing-... February 2004 http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2005-09-14/gillettes-fiv... September 2005
http://www.theonion.com/articles/bush-our-long-national-nigh... - January 2001.
Re: Gmail.com was down
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What? If keeping uptime of a server was as easy as wishful thinking, we'd see a lot more of REAL 99.9% uptime.
The trick is to want it to be down when you notice that it's down.
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went on. "Accepted authority rests first of all on reason. If you ordered your people
to go and throw themselves into the sea, they would rise up in revolution. I have the
right to require obedience because my orders are reasonable."
"Then my sunset?" the little prince reminded him: for he never forgot a question once
he had asked it.
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government, I shall wait until conditions are favorable."
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almanac. "Hum! Hum! That will be about--about--that will be this evening about twenty
minutes to eight. And you will see how well I am obeyed!"
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#309Probably not the time to rub people's face in it, but I host my own mail server because of crap like this. Thread from the other day: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4886236
So your web mail interface is always down... I'm still sending and receiving Google Apps mail through IMAP, so we're currently at parity (except I've never had to manage my email server or deal with spam).
Why? There are Free webmail solution you can install on your own servers.