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Re: Gmail.com was down

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Or you could go for a paid service without the ads. And we don't sell your data :) http://fastmail.fm /bias

gmail sells your data?

Uses your data to target ads, using the term sells your data is a bit strong for what they do.

Re: Gmail.com was down

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As soon as Yahoo shows me my inbox instead of an ad when I sign in, I'd consider going back. Until then, all the wasted time clicking away from the ad cancels any extra uptime. Luckily I've heard Marissa is actually pushing for this change :)

Well, outlook.com / live.com email is pretty nice nowadays. I'm tempted to forward my personal gmail stuff there for a while to see how it holds up.

I tried outlook.com for a while after the launch, but I just can't go back to the folder system. Tag & archive is now a requirement for any future email service I'll use.

Re: Gmail.com was down

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That's about the right amount of time for reality to imitate parody.

Obligatory: http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-everything-were-doing-... February 2004 http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2005-09-14/gillettes-fiv... September 2005

Wow, I saw the onion article but not the real story... that's crazy!

Re: Gmail.com was down

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So you have redundant internet connections, back-up power generators, a high availability cluster, etc? That seems like a lot of money just to host your own mail server.

- I've run my home server. They would crash randomly and usually when something else in the house like a water heater had broken. - I've run pay servers in the cloud. Then they magically disappear because the expiration date on my credit card updated and the best way for GoDaddy to tell me was to wipe it and then send me an email. - I've tried free servers. I got what I paid for. Whatever problems GMail has (and it d…

Pay for servers from someone other than GoDaddy--almost anyone else, really. Home servers are a really bad solution for anything remotely important, but shared hosting from the likes of Dreamhost, VPS from a company like Linode, or EC2 instances from Amazon are all fast, reliable, and cheap.

Re: Gmail.com was down

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Yeah. We use glusterfs to handle the IMAP sync between multiple VMs for HA IMAP. SMTP MX clustering is pretty straightforward in comparison:)

How well would glusterfs work across the Internet? Doing local HA with some kind of SAN seems fine, but the thing I'm trying to solve is "entire datacenter goes down, make the user have no more pain than making a new imap connection". It seems like something that would really need to be handled inside IMAP (using some crazy backing store for mail, like a database) to be done well, but maybe filesystem level replicati…

glusterfs would be fine for your situation. There's just some tuning you'll want to do to handle the WAN situation without performance hits.

Re: Gmail.com was down

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Probably not the time to rub people's face in it, but I host my own mail server because of crap like this. Thread from the other day: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4886236

Meh, I've had my Gmail for a little over 6 years now. This is the first time I ever remember having this problem. (My Gmail is back up now, by the way.) I'll take this frequency over the effort it takes to maintain my own mail server any day.

What effort? After setup, it just works.

Re: Gmail.com was down

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post #278

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That's about the right amount of time for reality to imitate parody.

Obligatory: http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-everything-were-doing-... February 2004 http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2005-09-14/gillettes-fiv... September 2005

Obligatory:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/bush-our-long-national-nigh... - January 2001.

Re: Gmail.com was down

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post #148

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What? If keeping uptime of a server was as easy as wishful thinking, we'd see a lot more of REAL 99.9% uptime.

The trick is to want it to be down when you notice that it's down.

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  went on. "Accepted authority rests first of all on reason. If you ordered your people
  to go and throw themselves into the sea, they would rise up in revolution. I have the
  right to require obedience because my orders are reasonable."

  "Then my sunset?" the little prince reminded him: for he never forgot a question once
  he had asked it.

  "You shall have your sunset. I shall command it. But, according to my science of 
  government, I shall wait until conditions are favorable."

  "When will that be?" inquired the little prince.

  "Hum! Hum!" replied the king; and before saying anything else he consulted a bulky
  almanac. "Hum! Hum! That will be about--about--that will be this evening about twenty
  minutes to eight. And you will see how well I am obeyed!"
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Re: Gmail.com was down

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Probably not the time to rub people's face in it, but I host my own mail server because of crap like this. Thread from the other day: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4886236

So your web mail interface is always down... I'm still sending and receiving Google Apps mail through IMAP, so we're currently at parity (except I've never had to manage my email server or deal with spam).

So your web mail interface is always down...

Why? There are Free webmail solution you can install on your own servers.

Re: Gmail.com was down

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Please leave those elsewhere.

I'll reward +1 internet to anyone that reply with more weird smiley-faces! :)

I'm surprised to see a comment like this from someone who has an account that was created over 1,700 days ago.
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