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Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by inigyou »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #222
programmertote wrote: post #185

I am like OP -- I use old.reddit.com strictly in Firefox. I'm comfortable and familiar with the old UI (been a Reddit user for as long as Reddit has been around). I was a little annoyed by being asked to log in. But I don't want to browse 'reddit.com' because I don't like the way the new UI looks. It's hard to read and scan the first few pages quickly in the new UI (also looking at you Vanguard; you destroyed your ol…

The new UI you're talking about has entered 2nd grade

And it's worse than the day it was born

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by Melatonic »

Terr_ wrote: post #400
Melatonic wrote: post #393

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never thought of this until now but what if you had some kind of pay system that worked more like an escrow-ish service ? So initially you have to pay some small sum. Eventually sometime not too long after (Hours? Days?) your money is returned to you. Make it pricey enough to deter large bot spam (some will of course still pay for single bots) and cheap enough to be affordable for most. Like putting a quarter in a sh…

I want to see a vending-machines in City Hall or Post Offices etc., where you can give $1-5 to a charity of your choice and receive an anonymous "Probably Human or at least has Metaphorical Skin In The Game" token. The token can be spent/burned with any online service to create/upgrade an account. I'm skipping over many details about privacy and security and anti-resale, but basically it means that the service can ex…

Not a bad idea. Couid be cheap I would guess since it requires physically going

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by inigyou »

superkuh wrote: post #184
mh2266 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

June 10 2015 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/10/reddit-ba... > The move frustrated some commenters on the initial post. “Why is /r/fatpeoplehate banned, but /r/coontown get to exist?” asked redditor CrackheadControl. “That’s bullshit.” “Because the admins are fat, not black,” replied The_Wizard_of_Wang.

I think we can all agree that the above, and other mentioned subreddits were genuinely undesirable, no quotations needed. I was clear that wasn't what I was talking about. Your practice of just parroting these nasty people and their words doesn't actually address my point at all. Which was that it went far beyond just the nasty people to groups that weren't nasty and just made some advertisers uncomfortable. It seems…

At the time it wasn't really clear whether stuff like FPH had real world implications or was just a silly joke.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by inigyou »

Terr_ wrote: post #396
LoganDark wrote: post #134

New reddit has a literally worse user experience. No comments display more than maybe 1 reply and if you click to view more, it takes you to a dedicated page for just that reply. If you click the back button it completely forgets where you were in the original comment thread. Basically impossible to peruse comment sections like on askreddit posts, etc.

It's really weird, I mean Reddit's strength was the threaded commenting system (esp. compared to Digg when they were competing) and then they started making almost every commenting-hostile move possible.

The world changed. Infinite scroll content consumption is the new meta.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by user43928 »

reorder9695 wrote: post #198
aucisson_masque wrote: post #191

I think at this point I'm ready to give up on Reddit, most of my questions are already answered by LLM. And the discussions quality on Reddit are abysmal, its filled with bots.

I gave up on it years ago when they killed off 3rd party clients, I have to say it doesn't seem like I've been missing much. The rare occasion I do need to see something on it, it's just full of deleted accounts and comments. I do also love how VPNs get blocked but accessing it over tor is allowed (genuinely I think allowing access over tor is great, but it seems so antithetical to everything else they've done recent…

I find it amazing how they killed off 3rd party clients many years ago, yet their first party mobile client is still garbage.

It is nowhere near as good as the third party apps that were made by a single individual developer.

It goes to show how a presumably large budget and sizable team is outdone by a single talented individual outside of the constraints of an enterprise environment.

Or maybe Reddit is particularly incompetent. I occasionally use their website on mobile, and if anything it has been getting worse.

That Reddit sells our content and does a terrible job at moderation, which they largely outsource to us as unpaid labor, is just the cherry on top.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by latexr »

> This is because appending `site: reddit.com` to a search query is basically a surefire way to find results written by genuine humans.

People share that tip as if it’s some kind of cheat code for the internet, and it baffles me how they can’t see they’re being manipulated. Of course advertisers took notice and there are Reddit posts which are ads disguised as content. That has been happening since before LLMs. After LLMs, of course plenty of posts there are written by them. Not that the human posts are great, either: for sharing opinions it’s of course subjective, but for factual stuff they are just as wrong as anywhere else on the internet, but with the bad results even more upvoted to the top. Reddit is full of propaganda and confidently ignorant people.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by apples_oranges »

kmarc wrote: post #427
benjiro29 wrote: post #84

As somebody who did plenty of scraping for his own little projects, lets just say that reddit their security concerns are just PR for "we do not want to keep supporting old.reddit". While yes, you can not simply scrap new reddit as easily as a pure html scraper is cheaper to run. And while the new reddit its js "slow down" scraping as it need to run over a headless browser. Do you slow scraping down a lot? No. Becaus…

> So much fun reading new reddit on your phone browser, to have it pop-up a "use our app" banner, that prevents you from interacting with the website anymore Hmmm, I remember this from the past, but one of my adblock rules probably catches this one, I haven't experienced it for years.

I always surf in anon windows that forget all cookies. Works since 2010 without any plugins. :)

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by marysol5 »

monksy wrote: post #325
20k wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're just trying to manufacture a reason to kill off old reddit. Someone internally clearly hates the fact that its still quite popular, despite all the efforts to make it unusable so far

> Someone internally clearly hates its spez. It's always spez.

He's sat in his bunker, wanking himself to death thinking about the end of the world.
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