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So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by inigyou »

b112 wrote: post #419
nothercastle wrote: post #281

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Forms are sadly dead. They cost a lot to operate and maintain security updates for so without a critical mass of users they are dead

Cost a lot to operate? apt-get install forum-software. All security updates with apt-get updates. Use something like Debian, and you keep the same forum software for years with zero config changes, but with security updates. I know endless local groups. Bike clubs. Hobby groups. They still all run on forums and mailing lists. No ads. No tracking. No doom-scrolling or this and that. Cost? For many of them, a $5/month…

You have to moderate it

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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nothercastle wrote: post #281
avadodin wrote: post #206

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Old–school forums never left, still inhabited by the few boomers and genXers who could figure out the Internets back in the day and aren't dead yet. The gamification of Reddit and the ephemeral nature of the main page along with subreddits with varying amounts of overlap contributed to more active interactions, though. Some of the volume was lower quality but not all. The boomer posts about his petunia breeding progr…

Forms are sadly dead. They cost a lot to operate and maintain security updates for so without a critical mass of users they are dead

And yet here we all are.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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wildzzz wrote: post #367
victor9000 wrote: post #321

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UBlock Origin can clear those on FF mobile with one of the Annoyances lists

I use a patched version of the last released version of redditisfun. Basically, you grab the AppID from when you install RedReader, authenticate it with your account (they send it to you in an email) and then patch redditisfun using that AppID with ReVanced or Morphe. I've been using redditisfun for like 15 years, not really interested in moving to their official app. All of the legacy features work fine. Only weird…

Why bother with all that? Just quit Reddit and your sanity will improve, unless you replace Reddit with HN.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #317
garciasn wrote: post #316

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Their users and those users data are the product; you are insignificant in the eyes of their shareholders.

You don’t seem to understand. It isn’t about me. Or even people like me. Slowly they kill themselves. It might not even be obvious to people, but they’ll slowly turn away at this or the next thing or the next one after that. I’ll be here long after Reddit at this rate. MySpace seemed like the shit until you put Facebook next to it. Does anyone think Reddit is the shit in 2026? And that is without anything put next to…

Now Facebook is worse than MySpace ever was. A tech company dying has little to do with the quality of the product. Remember, enshittification brings in more money, not less.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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felooboolooomba wrote: post #13

Meta has spent $2B on verification lobbying. Very successfully it seems. In 1-2 years, you won't be able to browse the internet without scanning a body part and providing a ID for your ass. https://www.gadgetreview.com/reddit-user-uncovers-who-is-beh...

You will if we create websites that don't require it.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Cider9986 wrote: post #147
iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #24

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While your post is joking in tone, depending on how much we push back now is the exact level of delta between actual future and 'drink verification' copypasta[1]. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/1dfea32/drink_ve...

>You've been blocked by network security. To continue, log in to your Reddit account or use your developer token ....

It's just the "drink verification can" meme, and could have linked to any site but chose Reddit...

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by probably_wrong »

jwrallie wrote: post #310

Interestingly, I remember that the clean interface of old Reddit, not so different from current HN, was one of the nice things when coming from Digg back in the day. It started dying for me when they started censoring posts and comments to appeal to advertisers, followed by killing non-official clients, then the light mobile website. Killing old.reddit feels like the last nail in the coffin. Unfortunately, we have ye…

I deleted my account when they deprecated i.reddit.com. It's mildly funny to read comments lamenting the death of "the good mobile interface" when the amazing one was already killed years ago.

> we have yet to see an alternative that can sustain mass migration.

I had hopes for Digg, but whatever it is they ended up building it's clearly not that.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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dylan604 wrote: post #189
deltoidmaximus wrote: post #156

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The frustrating part is that since so many companies collect PII under the guise of security (and then use it for advertising) it's harder to tell if this is a legal scam or illegal scam.

>if this is a legal scam or illegal scam. the fact this is something to be distinguished says a lot about where we are now and none of what it says is good

He calls "legal scam" what you probably call "legit business"

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by inigyou »

tokioyoyo wrote: post #294
felooboolooomba wrote: post #13

Meta has spent $2B on verification lobbying. Very successfully it seems. In 1-2 years, you won't be able to browse the internet without scanning a body part and providing a ID for your ass. https://www.gadgetreview.com/reddit-user-uncovers-who-is-beh...

It will sound insane, but I would love a parallel (not a replacement!) internet where everyone is ID verified. Time and place for both.

It's called the telephone network. Also Facebook.
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