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Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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>When you try and cleave society into things that are and aren't political, what you are doing is creating a normative set of things that aren't allowed to be challenged, on the basis of your claim that they aren't political What are you talking about? Whether something is allowed to be challenged has nothing to do with whether it's political. Actually, what even is not allowed to be challenged? I struggle to come up…

Yes, in communities that try to claim that certain things are "political" and certain things are "not political", "banning cryptocurrency" could be rejected on the basis that it is "political". The point is that saying something like "we don't do politics" is absurd. There is always an underlying politics, even if it has been normalized or obfuscated, repressed or unexamined. Reread my above comment.

You didn't answer my question about what is not allowed to be challenged.

>Yes, in communities that try to claim that certain things are "political" and certain things are "not political", "banning cryptocurrency" could be rejected on the basis that it is "political". The point is that saying something like "we don't do politics" is absurd.

I don't understand what you're saying. You switched tracked halfway through the thought from talking about communities that distinguish between things that are or aren't political to rejection of taking political stances.

What is usually meant by "we don't do politics" is that an institution or organization will avoid picking sides on political issues. This is not merely not absurd, but pretty much necessary for any organization that doesn't have ideological goals and doesn't want to foster internal factions.

Like the sibling comment said, just banning cryptocurrency might be political or it might not, depending on the reason for it. Rejecting reasons such as "crypto bad" is a tenable position if an organization seeks to maintain a neutral stance.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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> No dude. Most things are not, in fact, political. When I enjoy a meal, that isn't political. When I hang out with my family and friends, that isn't political. When I sit down to read a nice book with a cup of cocoa, that isn't political. What do you eat and what do you refuse to eat? Which restaurants would you go to or not? Which companies do you buy from and why/why not? Who do you meet with and who do you avoid?…

I don’t eat food that I am allergic to or don’t like the taste. What does that have to do with politics?

Even if you reduce it to that, you still endorse (or at least accept) the side effects of the production of what you eat.

If you eat meat, you are okay with the effects it has on climate change, and that’s political. If you do the opposite and don’t eat meat, that’s also political.

If you consume food from non-organic agriculture, you are okay with species extinction, especially insects.

If you buy the cheapest foods, you are okay with the working conditions and low pay necessary to reach the price. If you buy a more expensive option, who in the value chain benefits from the increased price and who doesn’t?

Almost everything that you do is political in some way.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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No, there's a big difference between "net effects are not guaranteed to be perfectly neutral" and "I am going to intentionally put my thumb on the scale". The position that everything is political so therefore opinions are mandatory intentionally conflates these things.

You’re the one who seems to be conflating things - everything is political =/= opinions are mandatory.

Reminder that you're commenting on the decision to make someone's political opinion against crypto mandatory for Codeberg

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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This is crazy. 1. Humans are turning energy in code too. 2. Business cannot afford "ultra-high-end-code" or dont want to. LLM's are the escape hatch for developers in those areas to increase throughput and quality (writing tests). Everything before llm's were already a burning piece of sh*t and now we actually can do smth about it.

Your comment makes two wrong assumptions:

1. that LLMs actually improve project quality, which may be true for projects with very clear style guides and test suites (eg. the linux kernel) but may also be false for 99% of projects (are the LLM tests testing good behavior or just random stuff?)

2. that codeberg's orientation is to host code for private businesses (it's a non-profit in which businesses may take part, but that's definitely not the target audience)

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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I'm probably repeating what others had said but might as well join in on the very classic hnews saga of talking about a conversational topic in super autistic detail lol.

On the one hand its there site so they can do what they want and tbh its pretty easy to self host your own git server nowdays (which i do) however the issue i do have with this and really its a wider issue i have with the industry as whole:

I feel like we focus way to much ideology's and moral grandstanding which we then insert that into tech projects so seeing stuff like this makes we want to avoid using this site with a 10 foot pole. Can we just focus on tech not some moral grandstanding about politics, crypto blah blah but i guess thats too hard of a thing to ask or something

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Does Google or Microsoft do that?

Google/Microsoft offer services in exchange for money. They are not tax exempt charities purporting to do beneficial work for society to earn that status. And they don't block your usage based on your perceived ideology.

They definitely offer free services and block your usage based on ideology.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Run your own Codeberg instance with blackjack and hookers, it's open source.

At that point I'm running gitlab. It's better anyway.

Unless you really need some of its features, self hosting gitlab always felt like an exercise in maximizing hosting bills.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Who's to say we were never going to use Codeberg? I actually had quite a favorable impression of it before now, as I know many projects that had to flee to it thanks to GitHub's terrible DMCA system and Microsoft randomly locking their accounts.

Now you get to have your own website instead!

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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I don't think you want to store your source code in a place where they ban projects based on politics [1]: > Allowing these projects is not a neutral stance; the effects to the environment are severe. The "DarkFi" (seemingly some crypto designed for criminals, citing an FBI director) project for example uses a "PoW blockchain" (per their readme). PoW (Proof-Of-Work) projects waste an astonishing amount of computation…

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Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Makes me wonder if all non memory safe code will be on the chopping block in the next 5 years. Will they find it morally justifiable to "protect" people from evil unsafe languages?

I thought the government already made those languages illegal
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