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So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by boredpudding »

20k wrote: post #293
galleywest200 wrote: post #284

I don't buy the “scraping” protection when appending .json to any reddit URL still gives you the data. Example: https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisit/comments/1v3mzl6/what_is_t...

They're just trying to manufacture a reason to kill off old reddit. Someone internally clearly hates the fact that its still quite popular, despite all the efforts to make it unusable so far

I'm not sure how statistics track it, but when you're moderator on a subreddit you can see how many visitors use old reddit.

Last month for mine it was 1%. Now. This could be more due to their tracking not working for most old reddit users (I assume most have adblock), but it's unlikely to be a lot more.

The large majority of Reddit users are on the app. I'm honestly surprised they haven't killed old reddit off yet, and yes, I've used it myself for the longest time until I started missing some features.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by phreack »

The login page is a very nice reminder to not use Reddit. I have the old reddit redirect extension so this change was the push I needed after the latest very clearly botted hate campaign took over the site recently. Dead internet theory is taking it over, so I'm off to the next moderated social website.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by PUSH_AX »

boredpudding wrote: post #421
20k wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're just trying to manufacture a reason to kill off old reddit. Someone internally clearly hates the fact that its still quite popular, despite all the efforts to make it unusable so far

I'm not sure how statistics track it, but when you're moderator on a subreddit you can see how many visitors use old reddit. Last month for mine it was 1%. Now. This could be more due to their tracking not working for most old reddit users (I assume most have adblock), but it's unlikely to be a lot more. The large majority of Reddit users are on the app. I'm honestly surprised they haven't killed old reddit off yet,…

I see similar stats too, it really seems like old reddit has died off, I remember when the redesign was newer looking at these stats and old was dominating, so I'm inclined to trust them relatively.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by boobsbr »

wildzzz wrote: post #367
victor9000 wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UBlock Origin can clear those on FF mobile with one of the Annoyances lists

I use a patched version of the last released version of redditisfun. Basically, you grab the AppID from when you install RedReader, authenticate it with your account (they send it to you in an email) and then patch redditisfun using that AppID with ReVanced or Morphe. I've been using redditisfun for like 15 years, not really interested in moving to their official app. All of the legacy features work fine. Only weird…

I prefer Sync but my installation has broken, and even after patching it with RedReader's AppID using Morphe I still get status 401.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by TFNA »

boredpudding wrote: post #421
20k wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're just trying to manufacture a reason to kill off old reddit. Someone internally clearly hates the fact that its still quite popular, despite all the efforts to make it unusable so far

I'm not sure how statistics track it, but when you're moderator on a subreddit you can see how many visitors use old reddit. Last month for mine it was 1%. Now. This could be more due to their tracking not working for most old reddit users (I assume most have adblock), but it's unlikely to be a lot more. The large majority of Reddit users are on the app. I'm honestly surprised they haven't killed old reddit off yet,…

I used Old Reddit for a long time, but I could tell the vast majority of users were on the app now, just because the comment culture had changed completely.

For example, posts now draw most of their comments within 30-60 minutes of posting, and then almost no comments thereafter. This is surely due to the app emphasizing continual novelty for the sake of engagement, and anything old is no longer shown. A big difference from before, when posts would draw discussion all day long.

The use of a phone app as a default interface also means comments have become reduced to 140-character quips. If you post a solid paragraph or two on many hobby subreddits, you'll just come across as a weirdo.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by Herbstluft »

uhhhhwhaaaa wrote: post #37
felooboolooomba wrote: post #13

Meta has spent $2B on verification lobbying. Very successfully it seems. In 1-2 years, you won't be able to browse the internet without scanning a body part and providing a ID for your ass. https://www.gadgetreview.com/reddit-user-uncovers-who-is-beh...

I would view a website that requires users to go through a lengthy verification process. Given all the astroturfing from companies and governments, this would give a bit of trust.

The actors running astroturfing will just continue to get direct access. If those sites cared about those things they would have done something long ago.

All the verification process does is making astroturfing and propaganda campaigns even more desirable.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by kmarc »

benjiro29 wrote: post #84

As somebody who did plenty of scraping for his own little projects, lets just say that reddit their security concerns are just PR for "we do not want to keep supporting old.reddit". While yes, you can not simply scrap new reddit as easily as a pure html scraper is cheaper to run. And while the new reddit its js "slow down" scraping as it need to run over a headless browser. Do you slow scraping down a lot? No. Becaus…

> So much fun reading new reddit on your phone browser, to have it pop-up a "use our app" banner, that prevents you from interacting with the website anymore

Hmmm, I remember this from the past, but one of my adblock rules probably catches this one, I haven't experienced it for years.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by p2detar »

Reddit is such an amazing business model that exploits the gullible. People go on reddit, voluntarily post comments, generate interest vectors that can be harvested and get "paid" with upvotes. The so called reddit mods do voluntarily, unpaid work to manage subreddits that can be closed at any time by reddit admins.

All of this work done by people for free for a commercial platform, so that it can then build a walled-garden around all that content and charge others for API usage.

Hats off.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by inigyou »

nothercastle wrote: post #281
avadodin wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Old–school forums never left, still inhabited by the few boomers and genXers who could figure out the Internets back in the day and aren't dead yet. The gamification of Reddit and the ephemeral nature of the main page along with subreddits with varying amounts of overlap contributed to more active interactions, though. Some of the volume was lower quality but not all. The boomer posts about his petunia breeding progr…

Forms are sadly dead. They cost a lot to operate and maintain security updates for so without a critical mass of users they are dead

Some are alive, eg. LowEndTalk. They are not as general as Reddit.
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