Earlier quoted context omitted.
LibreOffice is a different product from Microsoft Office.
but it's the same idea
LibreOffice is not Microsoft Office run through a copyright laundering machine.
Judge approves $1.5B Anthropic settlement for pirated books used to train Claude
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Re: Judge approves $1.5B Anthropic settlement for pirated books used to train Claude
#582Earlier quoted context omitted.
So a console game loses its copyright if you emulate it?
The game doesn’t but the emulator doesn’t necessarily infringe copyright in itself just because it is based on the original console.
So what does that have to do with a copyright laundering machine?
Re: Judge approves $1.5B Anthropic settlement for pirated books used to train Claude
#583Earlier quoted context omitted.
> As far as I'm concerned, the courts are wrong, and training on ill gotten copyrighted material is not fair use. It’s important to remember that a court’s job is to apply law to a situation. When a court gets something wrong it’s a misinterpretation of the law and will, by definition, be overturnable on appeal. I suspect that your objection isn’t that the court is wrong, it’s that the law is wrong.
Yes, ultimately the problem is that the law is vague or inadequate. The courts have their definitions of fair use, which are their best efforts at interpreting the law, and I have mine, which is different.
So this is first-mover's advantage in play here?
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#584Earlier quoted context omitted.
William Roper: "So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!" Sir Thomas More: "Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?" William Roper: "Yes, I’d cut down every law in England to do that!" Sir Thomas More: "Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned ’round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, fro…
This is why the idea of being "Vogelfrei" or "lawless" was honestly a terrifying concept in the middle ages. They are neither bound by law, nor protected by law. A lawless man can be struck down with force without persecution by law, because they are lawless.
> A lawless man can be struck down with force without persecution by law, because they are lawless.
Doesn't this define modern day police force theory?
Re: Judge approves $1.5B Anthropic settlement for pirated books used to train Claude
#585Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because that's legally the case? I don't understand the question. Using a lossy compression algorithm on an image does not remove its copyright protection.
Taking in an image then creating something new based on the ideas of that image is legally permissible, if you mean that you think AI training produces only derivative works.
I am not sure what you're trying to say. Compressing an image is creating a derived work, it is still subject to the copyright of the original.
Re: Judge approves $1.5B Anthropic settlement for pirated books used to train Claude
#586But why not jail like Kim Dotcom? And why no Feds jumping on Dario’s window? They are not only pirating, they also resell it!
Yeah. These AI settlements make such a mockery of past copyright enforcement victims that it's straight up offensive. Police descended upon Kim Dotcom like he was a terrorist or something. They rappelled down helicopters and stormed his home like he was bin Laden. Then these big techs come along and they make some absurd cost of doing business settlement.
Stealing on behalf of the poor versus stealing on behalf of the rich.
We barely consider the latter a crime. Just pay 10% of your take back into the settlement fund and don't get caught next time.
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#587Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. "Realtor" is a trademarked term for a member of the National Association of Realtors. Real estate agents are licensed by state governments, but prices for real estate agents are not legislated by state governments. If this is the 2024 settlement that you are referring to, it did not say anything about the price a Realtor can charge: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnett_v._National_Associatio... >The cooperative…
I'm aware that prices for agents are not legislated by state governments, but prior to 2024, as a realtor that was a member of your state's association, you were standardized at a 6% rate. Because that's what your association standardized. That's partially what the suit was about. What percentage of real estate transactions are done with agents who aren't members of XAR?
Federally, it is illegal to set a rate with clients. By law, rates must be negotiable. There's no regulation around sharing commissions between real estate agents, so maybe this is where you're getting confused?
Re: Judge approves $1.5B Anthropic settlement for pirated books used to train Claude
#588Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah. These AI settlements make such a mockery of past copyright enforcement victims that it's straight up offensive. Police descended upon Kim Dotcom like he was a terrorist or something. They rappelled down helicopters and stormed his home like he was bin Laden. Then these big techs come along and they make some absurd cost of doing business settlement.
Let's place the rage in the rage in the right place. What they did to past infringements is wrong. What they're doing now is also wrong, but less wrong.
It’s just selective enforcement and it sucks to be the little guy. That’s all this is about…
Re: Judge approves $1.5B Anthropic settlement for pirated books used to train Claude
#589Earlier quoted context omitted.
That sounds like an oligarchy. Especially if "great" is measured in dollars rather than public good.
In most cases it’s for the public good (even if a lot of the public has to be taken kicking and screaming), atleast the examples I listed above are. Uber and Tesla both revolutionized entire industries. So did Anthropic.
Is it? Uber has been a net loss for society. It increased overall VMT, especially in urban areas, and drove riders away from transit. On the whole this is both bad for cities and bad for city dwellers. We have more traffic and less transit, precisely the opposite of what we should be aiming for.
If corporations can selectively ignore whatever laws they don't like, we won't have a functioning society anymore. Our society is predicated on equality under the law. If general trust in that principle breaks down I don't see how democracy survives.
Re: Judge approves $1.5B Anthropic settlement for pirated books used to train Claude
#590For anyone who thinks the problem is Anthropic, I want you all to know that most authors make less than the median income. Most make less than $20,000 a year, because publishing houses give authors an advance, and then authors must pay back that entire advance in sales before they see a dollar of profit from their work. Most never do. Maybe publishers should JUST pay authors WELL, and get a book every 2-3 years. http…
Why would you think the advance is the problem? The problem is the low cut of sales if anything. The advance is exclusively beneficial.