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Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by masafej536 »

alloyed wrote: post #116
comeonbro wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"the community" being some tiny subset of busybodies out of an OOMs-larger body of users that don't want to be bothered? Real question, I don't know anything about Codeberg or its community.

iirc, it's a consumer co-op. So think of it as a vote of all users willing to pay for the membership to the service, who (correspondingly) are more likely to be power users/"activist" in the "activist investor" sense. This can be contrasted with a private company, which will often have a "activist investor", the actual owner!

this is a failure mode of consumer co-op that never occured to me. I thought the idea was bullet proof.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by matheusmoreira »

conartist6 wrote: post #168

I'm... unsure how to feel. On one hand I have the utmost sympathy for the idea of pushing people away from disposable software and towards collaboration. On the other hand this will definitely devolve into name calling and vigilantism. On the third hand, Github is already drowning in slop. It takes up huuuuge amounts of resources and delivers a tiiiiny amount of value to the platform per line of slop code

> On the other hand this will definitely devolve into name calling and vigilantism.

No doubt. Just look at Lobsters.

A quality filter would have been more effective.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by krapp »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #167
kurante wrote: post #133

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I strongly disagree: I think this is a perfectly acceptable action. No project is entitled to host their project there, nor is any project compelled to do so, so I don't see why there is any harm in having this instance of Forgejo moderate itself as it sees fit. They have no moral requirement to support all kinds of software. If you disagree with their beliefs, you are free to host your own instance or find a code fo…

> No project is entitled to host their project there So tiresome. This is going to lead to an even more fragmented free and open source ecosystem. GitHub is the default choice because it has huge network effects. Codeberg just opted out of those.

Good. That's how FOSS is supposed to work.

Codeberg isn't competing against Github for market share, it serves a specific demographic with a specific ideology. Anyone is welcome to use any other host they want for their crypto and AI projects, with whatever policies align with their preferences. Or make your own with blackjack and hookers.

There shouldn't even be "default choices" or "huge network effects" in FOSS anyway. That's just another form of centralization.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by kurante »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #167
kurante wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I strongly disagree: I think this is a perfectly acceptable action. No project is entitled to host their project there, nor is any project compelled to do so, so I don't see why there is any harm in having this instance of Forgejo moderate itself as it sees fit. They have no moral requirement to support all kinds of software. If you disagree with their beliefs, you are free to host your own instance or find a code fo…

> No project is entitled to host their project there So tiresome. This is going to lead to an even more fragmented free and open source ecosystem. GitHub is the default choice because it has huge network effects. Codeberg just opted out of those.

Did they, though? Do we have numbers on how many cryptocurrency projects were removed from Codeberg because of this, since GitHub is the default choice? Or are you suggesting that there is going to be a significant split because of this?

I agree that this is probably going to cause some fragmentation, but I'm not convinced that it will do so in a meaningful matter or at the scale at which it is problematic to the free and open source ecosystem.

For what it's worth, Forgejo is working on federation[1], which might address your networking effect concerns?

[1]: https://forgejo.org/2026-05-monthly-report/#federation

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by conartist6 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #184
conartist6 wrote: post #176

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I mean, that's your right, but also they'll get new users too. So much of the internet is drowning in slop that any place that's still brimming with original content will likely see its stock go up, and will tend to attract people who still do original work, creating a virtuous cycle

How do you define "slop" ?

Yeah I don't know. It's impossible to draw a clear line, but the overall effect is not hard to identify. If your work supports a community and creates value, you can reasonably expect the community's support. If your work leeches from a community, you can reasonably expect the community to turn on you.

To me slop is identifiable by its effect: it is the type of work which leeches value

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by p-e-w »

kurante wrote: post #133
jdormit wrote: post #107

Wow. I have never worked on any cryptocurrency projects and never intend to, but I will certainly be staying very far away from Codeberg because of this. There are some levels of censorship that make sense for a code forge - “you can’t do crimes on our servers”, “you can’t host malware on our servers”, etc. But inflicting a subjective moral judgement on an entire category of software sends the message that this isn’t…

I strongly disagree: I think this is a perfectly acceptable action. No project is entitled to host their project there, nor is any project compelled to do so, so I don't see why there is any harm in having this instance of Forgejo moderate itself as it sees fit. They have no moral requirement to support all kinds of software. If you disagree with their beliefs, you are free to host your own instance or find a code fo…

> If you disagree with their beliefs, you are free to host your own instance or find a code forge that better aligns with your beliefs.

Sure, but Codeberg has presented itself as a hoster for Free Software projects, not for Free Software projects that align with some vaguely defined ideology. If they are now the latter, they should start by clearly stating that ideology so users can make an informed decision on whether Codeberg is the right place for them.

The ban on “vibecoded” projects is effectively an invitation to start witch hunts. This is a terrible idea if you want to build a community.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by cyberax »

DaSHacka wrote: post #131
cyberax wrote: post #84

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What "process"? It's a simple rule: "no cryptocurrency projects".

Obviously the 'process' is how you arrive at the rule. If it was just one guy who arbitrarily decided as such, that's not much of a 'process' and is exactly what GP was calling out.

No. The process was handled as usual: a proposal was made, and people voted. Overwhelmingly to ban crypto.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by tbrownaw »

pretendgeneer wrote: post #160
altmanaltman wrote: post #143

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I think you're misunderstanding "codeberg is political". Everything is political, FOSS is political, GitHub is also political. When people say "We're not political", or "That's not political". What they're actually saying is that it's within my own politics.

No, there's a big difference between "net effects are not guaranteed to be perfectly neutral" and "I am going to intentionally put my thumb on the scale".

The position that everything is political so therefore opinions are mandatory intentionally conflates these things.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by DaSHacka »

cute_boi wrote: post #56
shikck200 wrote: post #49

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The only good thing about crypto is we can send money easily to stupid countries without any hassle and crazy forex exchange. Other than that, i don't see any value in crypto.

"The only good thing about crypto is using it for "

Well, sounds like it is a successful technology.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by rvz »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #57
shikck200 wrote: post #49

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You can say the same for AI btw There’s not a whole lot of utility to filling the world with slop

> You can say the same for AI btw

As it stands, AI has already surpassed the energy consumption of all cryptocurrencies including Bitcoin, and is also burning the entire planet [0]. It is only going up due to the data center build out. [1][2]

The cryptocurrency industry already found ways to migrate off of PoW to Proof-of-Stake so there exists an efficient alternative to reduce emissions.

AI still does not and the hard requirement is to build more data centers to keep up with the scale, hence higher token prices, energy prices, electronics and water.

[0] https://www.cell.com/joule/abstract/S2542-4351(25)00142-4

[1] https://ai2027-tracker.com/predictions/ai-power-consumption/

[2] https://www.aon.com/en/insights/articles/securing-power-glob...

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