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Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by DaSHacka »

heiogalma wrote: post #86
avaer wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's fair. They should probably put their political doctrines and ideologies on the home page so people can know if their projects fall into the category of undesirables before they make an account, since the list seems to be expanding. Otherwise it's hard to tell what will be banned next.

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Who's to say we were never going to use Codeberg? I actually had quite a favorable impression of it before now, as I know many projects that had to flee to it thanks to GitHub's terrible DMCA system and Microsoft randomly locking their accounts.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by danpalmer »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #78
danpalmer wrote: post #5

Why? Banning abuse is fine, and disliking Cryptocurrency projects at a moral level is fine, but running a coffee hosting service and putting your moral judgements on projects like this just seems childish and unserious. I'm also apparently banned from reading the article, despite having no previous usage of Codeberg or any history with the project, so I can't even see their reasoning.

> Why? The impetus makes sense. Crypto is a hive of scams. It makes sense for honest people to want safeguards between their names and those folks. The problem is this seems to have been implemented with zero attention to detail.

It's the lack of attention to detail that bugs me. It's just bad policy making. Writing good policies that encourage the right behaviour and discourage the wrong behaviour, policies that promote a good culture, are HARD.

Saying "no crypto" has a wide range of impact, from pushing away crypto projects, to pushing away businesses who see it as an overreach, to pushing away free speech advocates.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by birksherty »

zarzavat wrote: post #147
jjmarr wrote: post #75

In the prior words[1] of Gusted, one of the board members that announced the ban: > This is not a neutral space, Codeberg is political. If you disagree with someone, be constructive and don't call them merely political and think that's a reason for the discussion to stop. [1] https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/Community/issues/2184#issuecom...

Pretending to run an inclusive git hosting service for FOSS and then attacking your own users because their code is the wrong type of algorithm isn't politics, it's just being an asshole.

Nope. It's not "attacking own user base". These comments are ridiculous now. It's safeguarding a open project by removing scammers and abusers that exploit it. Scammer should host their own or use github.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by [deleted] »

sergiotapia wrote: post #48
comeonbro wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"the community" being some tiny subset of busybodies out of an OOMs-larger body of users that don't want to be bothered? Real question, I don't know anything about Codeberg or its community.

This sounds like a very dumb decision to you and I and most, but see you don't use codeberg. I don't use codeberg. So it's totally fine to poke fun, and totally fine for them to do whatever they want. We aren't part of that community!

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Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by hbbio »

kurante wrote: post #133
jdormit wrote: post #107

Wow. I have never worked on any cryptocurrency projects and never intend to, but I will certainly be staying very far away from Codeberg because of this. There are some levels of censorship that make sense for a code forge - “you can’t do crimes on our servers”, “you can’t host malware on our servers”, etc. But inflicting a subjective moral judgement on an entire category of software sends the message that this isn’t…

I strongly disagree: I think this is a perfectly acceptable action. No project is entitled to host their project there, nor is any project compelled to do so, so I don't see why there is any harm in having this instance of Forgejo moderate itself as it sees fit. They have no moral requirement to support all kinds of software. If you disagree with their beliefs, you are free to host your own instance or find a code fo…

Another beauty of free software is they took the project from gitea and gogs before that.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by trollbridge »

fishgoesblub wrote: post #2

Let this be a reminder to never trust any service be it one ran by a billion dollar company, to one ran by volunteers. You will be eventually screwed over. Make backup plans, and self-host whatever you can so nothing can be taken from you. For Git forges, I personally recommend Gitea[1], or Forgejo[2] (a Gitea fork by Codeberg) [1]: https://about.gitea.com/ [2]: https://forgejo.org/

I’m using self hosted GitLab; any reason I should check out something else?

(I also mirror projects to public GitLab and to GitHub.)

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by duxup »

raincole wrote: post #126
jdormit wrote: post #107

Wow. I have never worked on any cryptocurrency projects and never intend to, but I will certainly be staying very far away from Codeberg because of this. There are some levels of censorship that make sense for a code forge - “you can’t do crimes on our servers”, “you can’t host malware on our servers”, etc. But inflicting a subjective moral judgement on an entire category of software sends the message that this isn’t…

My rule of thumb: just use the most mainstream options unless I have a very, very strong reason to do otherwise. The mainstream options will screw you, but the niche options will screw you in totally unexpected ways.

“Nobody ever got fired buying IBM.”

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by fzeroracer »

zarzavat wrote: post #147
jjmarr wrote: post #75

In the prior words[1] of Gusted, one of the board members that announced the ban: > This is not a neutral space, Codeberg is political. If you disagree with someone, be constructive and don't call them merely political and think that's a reason for the discussion to stop. [1] https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/Community/issues/2184#issuecom...

Pretending to run an inclusive git hosting service for FOSS and then attacking your own users because their code is the wrong type of algorithm isn't politics, it's just being an asshole.

Their own users voted for this.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by pretendgeneer »

altmanaltman wrote: post #143
jjmarr wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the words of the person who announced the ban, when moderating a discussion on it 8 months prior:[1] > > Dear Codeberg, please push out and ban these political fighters. > This is not a neutral space, Codeberg is political. If you disagree with someone, be constructive and don't call them merely political and think that's a reason for the discussion to stop. the maintainers of Codeberg do not believe that they are…

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I think you're misunderstanding "codeberg is political".

Everything is political, FOSS is political, GitHub is also political.

When people say "We're not political", or "That's not political". What they're actually saying is that it's within my own politics.

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