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ICE shared Medicaid data it wasn't supposed to have with Palantir

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Re: ICE shared Medicaid data it wasn't supposed to have with Palantir

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Post by chaps »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #19
jazzyjackson wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious, where would you say the line is between “police state” and “a state with police”

Wikipedia says that in a police state, the government exerts an extreme amount of control over society and individuals. That leaves "extreme" undefined, though, so it's subjective. (Also, you know, Wikipedia.) I'm not the one you asked, but: Me, personally, I'd draw the line at the independence of the courts. If the courts are independent, if they can rule against the police for failure to prove their case or for pro…

Do you think the courts are independent?

Followup question:

Do you think public defenders are given adequate funding to ensure they can give proper defense to their clients?

Re: ICE shared Medicaid data it wasn't supposed to have with Palantir

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Post by mingus88 »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #18
techteach00 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See you proved my point. You know the tools the FBI uses. I'm sure their in bed with Palantir too. Police state against my enemies but not me and the good guys. It's all so tiresome.

Just curious, where would you say the line is between “police state” and “a state with police”

Are you serious with this question?

Re: ICE shared Medicaid data it wasn't supposed to have with Palantir

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Post by jazzyjackson »

mingus88 wrote: post #22
jazzyjackson wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious, where would you say the line is between “police state” and “a state with police”

Are you serious with this question?

No I just thought the parent poster was also unserious

Re: ICE shared Medicaid data it wasn't supposed to have with Palantir

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

chaps wrote: post #21
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wikipedia says that in a police state, the government exerts an extreme amount of control over society and individuals. That leaves "extreme" undefined, though, so it's subjective. (Also, you know, Wikipedia.) I'm not the one you asked, but: Me, personally, I'd draw the line at the independence of the courts. If the courts are independent, if they can rule against the police for failure to prove their case or for pro…

Do you think the courts are independent? Followup question: Do you think public defenders are given adequate funding to ensure they can give proper defense to their clients?

Yes, I think courts are independent. No, I do not think that public defenders are adequate.

Re: ICE shared Medicaid data it wasn't supposed to have with Palantir

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Post by hilariously »

TMWNN wrote: post #10
hilariously wrote: post #9

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When the rich and powerful stealing the actual wealth from under us use it as a jingoistic canard we can actually safely ignore it, yes.

[flagged]

Cool, well let me know when you prosecute the president and his cronies and we can work our way down.

Re: ICE shared Medicaid data it wasn't supposed to have with Palantir

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Post by chaps »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #24
chaps wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think the courts are independent? Followup question: Do you think public defenders are given adequate funding to ensure they can give proper defense to their clients?

Yes, I think courts are independent. No, I do not think that public defenders are adequate.

What would you change to make public defense more adequate?

Re: ICE shared Medicaid data it wasn't supposed to have with Palantir

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

TMWNN wrote: post #14
bakies wrote: post #13

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Well, the admin should stop creating illegal aliens by cancelling visas and green cards without reason or notice.

[flagged]

Obviously they can do it. That doesn't mean it's good policy.

Re: ICE shared Medicaid data it wasn't supposed to have with Palantir

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

chaps wrote: post #26
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I think courts are independent. No, I do not think that public defenders are adequate.

What would you change to make public defense more adequate?

I'm not an expert, but I think it would probably start with funding. I think they're massively overworked, and as a result they do an inadequate job for each defendant.

Re: ICE shared Medicaid data it wasn't supposed to have with Palantir

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Post by hn_acker »

techteach00 wrote: post #17
bakies wrote: post #12

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Any examples? I certainly don't like that they're involved in any capacity. I'd rather the FBI just do some good ol' fashion police work to apprehend those traitors of democracy.

See you proved my point. You know the tools the FBI uses. I'm sure their in bed with Palantir too. Police state against my enemies but not me and the good guys. It's all so tiresome.

> Police state against my enemies but not me and the good guys.

Who said this?

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