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Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Post by kstrauser »

jvican wrote: post #16
paddingtone wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using uBlock Origin Lite on Safari with no issues. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ublock-origin-lite/id674534269...

I use Adguard/wipr to great success. Why's uBlock Origin better? Also, wipr now has filtr, which provides URL filtering at the macOS level, so it's as efficient as it gets.

Seconded for Wipr. It's my favorite adblocker I've tried yet (although 1Blocker is also really nice). And if the author sells it to some creepy company, the Safari API means that the new owner can't spy on my viewing. I'm not sure how it could be materially improved by using less privacy-respecting APIs.

Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Post by kstrauser »

lapcat wrote: post #5

This update fixed some web inspector bugs that I reported, but I can't use it because Safari Technology Preview inexplicably supports fewer macOS versions than Safari itself, i.e., no longer Sequoia.

I don't know, given that Safari is bundled with the OS, targeting a newer macOS seems pretty explicable.

Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Post by bearjaws »

dbbk wrote: post #15
bearjaws wrote: post #12

I cannot use a browser that is owned by a company who's financial model is dependent upon browsers being nerfed. Apple and Google have far too many incentives to wall garden browsers, Apple due to the app store, Google due to advertising. Independent browsers are the only safe path forward.

What did they nerf

Apple: adblocking, PWA being put in a odd spot, surely to be followed by a post "nobody was using it" before being removed, if they mention it at all.

Google: ad blocking

Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Post by gausswho »

bearjaws wrote: post #12

I cannot use a browser that is owned by a company who's financial model is dependent upon browsers being nerfed. Apple and Google have far too many incentives to wall garden browsers, Apple due to the app store, Google due to advertising. Independent browsers are the only safe path forward.

You're correct. Which makes it all the more inscrutable that the Firefox team doesn't embrace PWA's as a differentiator.

Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Post by lapcat »

kstrauser wrote: post #22
lapcat wrote: post #5

This update fixed some web inspector bugs that I reported, but I can't use it because Safari Technology Preview inexplicably supports fewer macOS versions than Safari itself, i.e., no longer Sequoia.

I don't know, given that Safari is bundled with the OS, targeting a newer macOS seems pretty explicable.

Safari supports 3 major macOS versions. For example, Safari 26 continues to support Sonoma and Sequoia as well as Tahoe: https://support.apple.com/en-us/127685

Safari 27 will support Golden Gate, Tahoe, and Sequoia. However, Safari Technology Preview now supports only Golden Gate and Tahoe, despite the fact that the same WebKit commits will make their way into regular Safari on Sequoia. Thus, it seems that Apple is just shooting itself in the foot by failing to test sufficiently on one supported platform.

Re: Safari Technology Preview 248 Released

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Post by arijun »

jvican wrote: post #16
paddingtone wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using uBlock Origin Lite on Safari with no issues. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ublock-origin-lite/id674534269...

I use Adguard/wipr to great success. Why's uBlock Origin better? Also, wipr now has filtr, which provides URL filtering at the macOS level, so it's as efficient as it gets.

I think the limitations are similar to the manifest v3 issues that the Chrome version has. Specifically, you (the ad blocker) send the browser a list of sites to block, instead you blocking them yourself. That means it's way harder to do clever things like scriptlet injection to find ads and get around adblock detection.
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