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Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by ksd482 »

markdown wrote: post #228
ksd482 wrote: post #225

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The discussion quality is unbelievably shallow in most of the subreddits. Unless it's a niche and technical subreddit such as mathematical topics, bio science subtopic, the discussion is quite shallow and in some cases simply misinformed. For e.g., a recent question about "is this person racist?", everyone jumped on the bandwagon and said "yes!", "100%", "obviously" without citing any sources. They simply paraphrased…

> I used to enjoy reddit back in 2011-2013 when it was all about silly memes and jokes. Reddit is as it's always been. You just got older and don't get the current silly memes and jokes.

I never said anything about not getting the current memes and jokes.

I was alluding to the current mix of the content on reddit. It has gotten more political and less entertaining if you look at the default feed whether you create an account or browse anonymously.

And in any political or open ended discussion, unless it is scientific, the discussions are shallow.

I will however concede that non-scientific/technical discussions were always shallow.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by markdown »

NetMageSCW wrote: post #116
tassadarforaiur wrote: post #19

I don't care about any of reddits social features anymore, I logged out a long time ago, but where do we go now for the knowledge base of old reddit how to questions / recommendations / guides? Good forums with trustworthy guides are hard to find for niches you're newly learning about. Discord is it's own problem. I haven't explored mastodon / blue sky / etc. in a while. Do we have to find an old dump of reddit html,…

Let’s bring Stack Exchanges back!

Or the OG, Expert Sex Change.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by gonzalohm »

alterom wrote: post #227
human305893 wrote: post #218

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It now only works if you're logged in.

Bastards. I didn't notice. Welp. I guess most people who are/were using it also had accounts.

Not true, I use Firefox focus to access it, so now I can't

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by jayGlow »

dude187 wrote: post #131
masfuerte wrote: post #23

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My mother tried to buy something on Amazon yesterday. It wouldn't let her check-out until she'd entered a code sent via WhatsApp. Which she doesn't have and doesn't want. She'll be buying her tat on eBay in future. I dream that Amazon will lose lots of sales and backtrack, but I don't suppose they will.

Sure it was Amazon? Sounds like a scam

I has Facebook send a verification through Whatsapp, I legitimately thought it was a scam until I googled it and realized they do actually send verification that way.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by tumult »

Klonoar wrote: post #178
VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #162

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Reddit HAD almost 20 years of comments, until about three years ago when they started to lock down APIs, remove moderators, and make poor choices. Users reacted accordingly and now you will just see a whole lot of [deleted] or comment content replaced with garbage data. It's no longer an archive or wealth of information it once was.

That redacted amount is absolutely miniscule and blown out of proportion.

Not in my experience. I see it almost every time I end up in a reddit thread from search results. I've recently started demoting it in Kagi. It's just not as good as it used to be. Newer threads tend to be full of junk and bots.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by TZubiri »

cole-k wrote: post #215
TZubiri wrote: post #199

Politics aside, this is a sensible position, there was a major client revision, they can put security measures in the new version that are not present in the older one, this happens in many many industries. To be specific, the defensive measures probably rely on javascript, captchas and captchaless bot detection measures (probably javascript), like measuring mouse movement and stuff like that. So sending a client wit…

While most of the rant was indeed about their posturing (which I personally would not call "politics" but we need not debate semantics here if I understood you well enough), even putting that aside I wasn't able to find strong evidence of the "security measures" you speak of. If you're more familiar with the mechanisms by which New Reddit defends itself against scraping, I'm happy to issue a correction --- especially…

It's not necessary to analyze the specifics of reddit's architecture.

This is a common pattern across many services that can be accessed by more than 1 client, whether it me on the same platform/device/OS or different.

For example an SaaS provider might offer support for Windows Vista, and when Windos 8 releases, they still support Windows Vista, and when Windows 10 releases, they are now supporting 3 versions. They may decide to stop supporting Windows Vista at some point, that's completely normal for many reasons and security is one of them, on two counts, one that they would need to backport security features which is added work, and second that the old version API (Windows Vista in this example, Plain HTML in the other) doesn't support some security features or guarantees.

An even bigger version jump than a major revision would be a different platform, Android for example is a competing Operating System with much stronger security guarantees, so it may happen, and has happened in the past, that a provider will stop supporting Windows applications and only support Android/IOS applications, (consider banking applications, which may only support access from phones due to its security and antitampering features).

So yeah, getting familiar with Software lifecycle practices in general would help explain this, rather than rabbit holeing on reddit specifically.

>Commenting has --- as far as I remember --- required an account on Reddit, and Old Reddit is still accessible behind a login. So in the future when they do sunset Old Reddit, they can use this argument. I will still not really buy that they simply had to remove Old Reddit because of it, but whatever, I kind of doubt I'll even see the notice.

Can happen, what I've also seen happen is that account creation and account management is handled by the new client, so if you create your account on the new client, they push most gatekeeping mechanisms onto that part and they allow you to use the old version for a little bit longer before sunsetting it completely as suggested.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by jejejrjrj »

ksd482 wrote: post #231
markdown wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I used to enjoy reddit back in 2011-2013 when it was all about silly memes and jokes. Reddit is as it's always been. You just got older and don't get the current silly memes and jokes.

I never said anything about not getting the current memes and jokes. I was alluding to the current mix of the content on reddit. It has gotten more political and less entertaining if you look at the default feed whether you create an account or browse anonymously. And in any political or open ended discussion, unless it is scientific, the discussions are shallow. I will however concede that non-scientific/technical d…

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Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by saint_yossarian »

human305893 wrote: post #218
brokenmachine wrote: post #210

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What do you mean it's defunct? I use old.reddit.com all the time. If old.reddit.com goes, I'm done with reddit. I might try out some kind of alternative front end from https://github.com/mendel5/alternative-front-ends#reddit though. But if that's not good enough, I'm done.

It now only works if you're logged in.

Seems to work fine here?

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by brokenmachine »

skydhash wrote: post #71
tassadarforaiur wrote: post #19

I don't care about any of reddits social features anymore, I logged out a long time ago, but where do we go now for the knowledge base of old reddit how to questions / recommendations / guides? Good forums with trustworthy guides are hard to find for niches you're newly learning about. Discord is it's own problem. I haven't explored mastodon / blue sky / etc. in a while. Do we have to find an old dump of reddit html,…

I spent my whole childhood without computers and a good chunk of my teenage years without stable internet connection. Now, I have both, but due to the state of the internet, I'm returning to my old routine: A load of books to learn from and hopefully finding some time to apply the knowledge.

Don't give up yet.

Lemmy is good, but not enough people on there for network effect to kick in yet.

I think once the enshittification gets too bad for even the average person, people will look for alternatives, and old style forums will return.

Although with all the ID verification, those forums might end up on Tor or something.

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