If this can fully replace something like postmark plus do documents it could be very interesting. I might try it out in a year or so if it’s still around.
Launch HN: Unlayer (YC W22) – Add email and document builders to your app
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Re: Launch HN: Unlayer (YC W22) – Add email and document builders to your app
#22If this can fully replace something like postmark plus do documents it could be very interesting. I might try it out in a year or so if it’s still around.
We will be around. Have been for 5 years :)
Re: Launch HN: Unlayer (YC W22) – Add email and document builders to your app
#23Congrats on your late Launch HN. Everyone's going to ask this question but, in a world of AI/LLMs, why wouldn't I just build it myself in 10 min
Not the OP, nor do I have any relationship to them, but I've had to build or maintain plenty of these in my time and sure, an LLM can knock out a basic one easily, but there are so many edge cases that need to be accounted for that it gets complex quickly. Congrats on the launch - this looks like a genuinely useful tool. I look forward to checking it out.
Exactly. You realize that after going through the whole process.
Re: Launch HN: Unlayer (YC W22) – Add email and document builders to your app
#24Vibe coded website that looks like it was one-shotted in 5 minutes. Doesn't even work on mobile, the copy wraps off the screen. How can we take you seriously?
Re: Launch HN: Unlayer (YC W22) – Add email and document builders to your app
#25Vibe coded website that looks like it was one-shotted in 5 minutes. Doesn't even work on mobile, the copy wraps off the screen. How can we take you seriously?
I had to close the page after 5 seconds, seeing the AI slop.
Re: Launch HN: Unlayer (YC W22) – Add email and document builders to your app
#26FYI we've built this internally and it was a pain, so I was excited to check out what you've built to see if it was a good fit for us.
But your landing page + video was just slop city. Removes 100% of credibility for me.
I know the advice is launch early and often, but honestly I would just point people to the github until you have something better.
Re: Launch HN: Unlayer (YC W22) – Add email and document builders to your app
#27Congrats on your late Launch HN. Everyone's going to ask this question but, in a world of AI/LLMs, why wouldn't I just build it myself in 10 min
Totally fair. You can build the first 10-minute demo with an LLM now. The hard part is usually what comes after: editable state, templates, email-safe HTML, PDF/export pipelines, assets, permissions, custom blocks, previews, and all the rendering edge cases that show up once real users depend on it. AI also makes structure more important, not less. That’s why we launched Unlayer Elements: instead of having an LLM gen…
Really? You couldn't write this message yourself and had to ask an LLM. At least make it less obvious.
Re: Launch HN: Unlayer (YC W22) – Add email and document builders to your app
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Totally fair. You can build the first 10-minute demo with an LLM now. The hard part is usually what comes after: editable state, templates, email-safe HTML, PDF/export pipelines, assets, permissions, custom blocks, previews, and all the rendering edge cases that show up once real users depend on it. AI also makes structure more important, not less. That’s why we launched Unlayer Elements: instead of having an LLM gen…
Really? You couldn't write this message yourself and had to ask an LLM. At least make it less obvious.
If you spend enough time with an LLM and aren't paying attention, you'll pick up on its mannerisms. I did this awhile ago (the "its not this, its that" thing) and someone here called me on it. After that callout, I've tried to be more aware of how much of that stuff leaches into my head and out into text.
Re: Launch HN: Unlayer (YC W22) – Add email and document builders to your app
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Really? You couldn't write this message yourself and had to ask an LLM. At least make it less obvious.
If you spend enough time with an LLM and aren't paying attention, you'll pick up on its mannerisms. I did this awhile ago (the "its not this, its that" thing) and someone here called me on it. After that callout, I've tried to be more aware of how much of that stuff leaches into my head and out into text.
While that may be true, in this instance the whole thing is 100% AI generated and this is not someone who has just adopted the mannerisms of AI.
For instance, the usage of "Totally fair" and "The hard part", the usage of colons, which humans would use far less frequently, using the rule of threes (editable email, web page or document), etc.
Anyway, it's just lazy. This is someone trying to sell their product. They should be able to speak about it without using the exact response from an AI