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> but it must be said, as genius as Franklin was, sadly .. Some people can't help themselves from bringing irrelevant facts to the conversation.

I don't think it's irrelevant that a brilliant man like Benjamin Franklin may not have been able to achieve as much as he unmistakably did WITHOUT the heavy assistance of forced slave labor in his life, from cradle to grave.

Pretending like these things can be separated is ignorance. Ignoring its brutality does a disservice to our history and that man's legacy

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People are better judged by the mores of their time, not our time. Besides, without Franklin, there would be no United States, the free-est country in history.

Plenty of people at the time thought slavery was evil. Franklin was even one of them, calling it "cancer." He said this while still owning slaves, which is rather peculiar, but people are complicated.

In this century we have a word for that kind of talk by slaveholders who professed some longing for abolition (Franklin. Jefferson, Washington, John Jay) but did not really wanna be inconvenienced: trolling.

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People are better judged by the mores of their time, not our time. Besides, without Franklin, there would be no United States, the free-est country in history.

Slavery was immoral during Franklin's time too, Walter. Many, many people of the time understood this. Even Franklin himself, hypocrite though he was, came around to it.

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If you've never seen neon up close, plasma is such an incredible light source. It's like the light is just floating being emitted from empty space. I took a neon workshop a few years ago, and it became clear why people are still willing to painstakingly make these signs - there is really nothing comparable to them, they're like magic

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People are better judged by the mores of their time, not our time. Besides, without Franklin, there would be no United States, the free-est country in history.

Yeah no, Norway and a few others are the free-est country in history, just because someone declares US is "free" doesn't make it true, we disappear citizens all the time, police can seize your property without cause, government can seize your land for datacenters and women lose more and more rights every year Again, Franklin knew slavery was wrong, literally campaigned to end it for that reason, yet did it himself fo…

I consider freedom to include the free market. Norway has a mixed economy, due to its extensive regulation.

While it operates as a free-market country, the Norwegian government holds large ownership stakes in strategic industries, including petroleum, hydroelectric power, telecommunications, and banking.

Experts often characterize the Norwegian economy as a blend of private enterprise, state ownership, and social welfare that provides high standards of living.

(Cribbed from google)

Re: Mechanical light bulb from 1675 [video]

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People are better judged by the mores of their time, not our time. Besides, without Franklin, there would be no United States, the free-est country in history.

Slavery was immoral during Franklin's time too, Walter. Many, many people of the time understood this. Even Franklin himself, hypocrite though he was, came around to it.

I understand that. I also know that half the country thought slavery was ok, and made it clear they would not join the union if it was abolished.
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