This is nothing but a good thing. We need respite from the chaos and unrefined unregulated slop-filled AI coding world. If you want all that, I got a product for you - GitHub.
Codeberg bans vibe coded projects
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#202Why are all the vibe coders so upset? Places that have mostly non-polluted projects will be fantastic for future model training. Codeberg doing this will mean that it will be scraped and part of all future models' learning input, surely? They have never cared and will never care about anyone's rights.
I'm upset because I strongly prefer rules to be unambiguous and enforceable. This is neither.
Just vibe-code an alternative.
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#203What is a vibe coded project? Where does it start? Cursor autocomplete? One shot Github project copies? [Edit] The pull link is https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253/files and says "7. You must not share projects that mostly consist of code written by "generative AI"-tools (including services such as Claude , OpenAI Codex ). Such projects having an unclear copyright status (see requirements § 2 (1) 1 and § 2 (…
I’d say even GitHub copilot autocomplete is LLM aided coding. Copy pasting from a chat too is. But let’s not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. The point is the intent. We don’t want AI generated code. Put that in github if you so please.
This is for human generated code. Some day we will have a way to enforce the amount of AI usage on its participants, right now we can just rely on an honor code and clear intent that you’re not welcome here
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#204This is good and I am saying this as someone using coding agents full on. I am a software engineer and I do use coding agents and I do believe that there can be spaces which do not encourage or allow projects built by generative AI. Detection may become harder as time passes by but that aside, I think the massive generation abilities of multiple LLM providers will simply make it tough for code hosts. But it is also a…
Yes I don’t want to see AI paintings, I don’t see computers playing chess, I don’t want to see AI generated code. What you do for your business, in this economy is your choice, probably most will use AI for that anyway, but as a hobby I want to see humans doing all the coding and I’m glad codeberg can be a space for this. (Of course enforcing this is hard)
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#205I moderate r/selfhosted and we tried to enforce this rule almost 1:1, so let me predict on how this is going to go based on my experience. 1. You try to ban low quality vibe-coded projects, but try to not ban high quality projects that made use of AI. The goal is to send a message on what you deem acceptable. 2. Anyone creating what you deem a low quality vibe-coded project sees their project as belong to the second…
It's different for codeberg, because they have a lot of infrastructure they have to maintain, and are ideologically motivated to be a libre option to share peoples code. It's an entirely different motivation than promoting a subreddit that runs on reddit's infrastructure. They are really constrained on the infrastructure cost side, and stability is a constant struggle. They don't have the bandwidth to sort through th…
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It seems like a better option than dealing with the Great Amorphous Corporate Centralizing Mass that is Cloudflare.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
It means if the guy running Codeberg doesn't like it. This is his fiefdom, not a public square. Make your own fiefdom for AI coding. You could call it Vibeberg.
You're mistaken, Codeberg isn't ran by some guy, it is a non-profit organization with ~1200 members (not to be confused with users - there are ~200k users), ~780 members of which have voting rights.
He's not mistaken in any substantive way: it's still not a public square and those ~780 members have every right to make rules that offer a great deal of discretion to those doing the enforcing, and such discretion is entirely consistent with their other rules.
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#208They are a non-profit with a mission to support free software: https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/src/branch/main/en/bylaws.... However, they do this because of copyright status and harmful code: "7. You must not share projects that mostly consist of code written by "generative AI"-tools (including services such as Claude , OpenAI Codex ). Such projects having an unclear copyright status (see requirements § 2 (1) 1 an…
German court rulings on copyrightability of AI content, as far as I understand, so far have made it so that the person owning the copyright is a) the author, if there's enough creative input b) no one. A lets the author license it as if they wrote it, and B is just public domain, which is in line with their goals still.
Their concern of "what if the license goes to model providers" is bonkers, and is completely out of line with their decision to ban projects that are mostly written by LLMs. I'm pretty sure it'd be violating copyright for me to upload a project that is 40% leaked Microsoft code and 60% my own, so what's the difference if it ends up that Anthropic owns 40% and I own 60%?
It's clear that this is just them disliking LLMs for coding and trying to ban it in some way, and that's fine, but they should say it as it is and ban it fully, instead of going for this half-solution with a nonsense justification to go with it. If they don't actually dislike LLMs and are just concerned about copyright, then they should revert this change.
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#209Is this "don't vibe" code, or "don't accept" code written with agents? We have a philosophical (and potentially legal) aversion to code written by models. I can appreciate not wanting to fill Codeberg up with potential AI slop, though the effort to validate is likely higher than just accepting it. What I think will backfire is being one of the most prominent alternatives to GitHub and prohibiting code written by mode…
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's reasonable to assume >50% by default, unless the source clarifies what they mean by "mostly".
How would anyone ever be able to arbitrate this? It's an unenforceable policy if you actually care about fairness.
I suspect rather than posting whataboutisms that it would be more useful to adhere to the spirit of the rule rather than asking how close you can get to violating it without actually getting kicked off.