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Ubuntu 9.10 is named Karmic Koala, promises to bring boot time under 25sec

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Re: Ubuntu 9.10 is named Karmic Koala, promises to bring boot time under 25sec

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According to the article, 25 seconds is the target for Jaunty (the 9.04 release) which is pretty nice right there.

Beyond that, Karmic is supposed to being a new UI look (brown no longer). Since this is often the most prominent complaint I get about Ubuntu (ridiculous or not), it will be a welcome change. According to Shuttleworth, "The desktop will have a designer's fingerprints all over it." That's really welcome and I hope they do as wonderful a job as they've done with the rest of the system.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 is named Karmic Koala, promises to bring boot time under 25sec

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post #2

According to the article, 25 seconds is the target for Jaunty (the 9.04 release) which is pretty nice right there. Beyond that, Karmic is supposed to being a new UI look (brown no longer). Since this is often the most prominent complaint I get about Ubuntu (ridiculous or not), it will be a welcome change. According to Shuttleworth, "The desktop will have a designer's fingerprints all over it." That's really welcome a…

I've been using Ubuntu for 2 years as my primary environment and I miss it a lot despite terrible performance of Firefox and flash. Everything else pretty much rocked.

I don't have room for a desk with a workstation PC to run it and all PC laptops are so lame these days that I'm stuck with Macbook Pro but keep toying with a double boot idea.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 is named Karmic Koala, promises to bring boot time under 25sec

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post #2

According to the article, 25 seconds is the target for Jaunty (the 9.04 release) which is pretty nice right there. Beyond that, Karmic is supposed to being a new UI look (brown no longer). Since this is often the most prominent complaint I get about Ubuntu (ridiculous or not), it will be a welcome change. According to Shuttleworth, "The desktop will have a designer's fingerprints all over it." That's really welcome a…

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Re: Ubuntu 9.10 is named Karmic Koala, promises to bring boot time under 25sec

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The most prominent change, in my opinion, seems to be the idea of bringing suspend/resume to servers. I'd imagine this would only be implemented in multi-server clusters, with extra hosts powering down but never totally interrupting service. Is there a reason this hasn't been implemented in other distros?

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 is named Karmic Koala, promises to bring boot time under 25sec

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I'm really looking forward to this release. Ive been using Ubuntu for a couple of years now, and really enjoy devloping on it. I don't have to restart my machine that often - usually only when I have to do some Windows stuff, but the faster boot time will be a welcome improvement.

When you consider just how many features are available in Ubuntu, and the general feel, it's amazing that you can get it for free.

I even like the current brown/skin theme - I must be a fan boy. The one big improvement I would like to see though is a fast Firefox port.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 is named Karmic Koala, promises to bring boot time under 25sec

#8
Boot-up times are rapidly approaching the stage where the OS isn't the bottleneck - it's the BIOS. I often wonder what the hell it's doing for those 10-30 seconds. (depending on the motherboard) EFI in Macs is definitely snappier, at least until you start booting into Linux or Windows and the BIOS emulation kicks in and waits around for a couple seconds.

Interestingly, you used to be able to get a decent speedup with hibernating (suspend to disk) but nowadays, with the bootup improvements and larger amounts of RAM (my workstation has 8GB; 4GB is pretty normal these days) it only helps if you've got lots of stuff open in your session. OSX's resume is a lot faster than Linux' though, so there's plenty scope for improvement. I suspect the problem is once again initialising the hardware - controlling the platform sure helps.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 is named Karmic Koala, promises to bring boot time under 25sec

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post #2

According to the article, 25 seconds is the target for Jaunty (the 9.04 release) which is pretty nice right there. Beyond that, Karmic is supposed to being a new UI look (brown no longer). Since this is often the most prominent complaint I get about Ubuntu (ridiculous or not), it will be a welcome change. According to Shuttleworth, "The desktop will have a designer's fingerprints all over it." That's really welcome a…

I've been using Ubuntu for 2 years as my primary environment and I miss it a lot despite terrible performance of Firefox and flash. Everything else pretty much rocked. I don't have room for a desk with a workstation PC to run it and all PC laptops are so lame these days that I'm stuck with Macbook Pro but keep toying with a double boot idea.

Some, not all ;) http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:Ubuntu

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 is named Karmic Koala, promises to bring boot time under 25sec

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post #2

According to the article, 25 seconds is the target for Jaunty (the 9.04 release) which is pretty nice right there. Beyond that, Karmic is supposed to being a new UI look (brown no longer). Since this is often the most prominent complaint I get about Ubuntu (ridiculous or not), it will be a welcome change. According to Shuttleworth, "The desktop will have a designer's fingerprints all over it." That's really welcome a…

I've been using Ubuntu for 2 years as my primary environment and I miss it a lot despite terrible performance of Firefox and flash. Everything else pretty much rocked. I don't have room for a desk with a workstation PC to run it and all PC laptops are so lame these days that I'm stuck with Macbook Pro but keep toying with a double boot idea.

I think the biggest increase in popularity for ubuntu (or any linux) installs would come from providing images that include all the necessary drivers and config settings to work with specific notebook models. (Notebooks is where it's at for consumer markets at least). That way I could just download/burn/install, and it just works - no lost productivity due to fiddling.

Hardware vendors won't sell it preinstalled (Dell's offerings are weak, esp. outside of the US), and not even Lenovo is offering a linux preinstalled option. It seems that Microsoft still has tremendous leverage in the hardware markets.

Providing (official) images that are basically guaranteed to work with a range of popular notebook models would greatly increase people's willingness to switch. I really want to switch to Ubuntu/Linux, but I don't want to spend two days configuring X and getting my webcam to work.

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