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Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Now when I see new software projects I just think of how much of them are made with agents and the unreliability/easy abandonment that comes with it. Ten years ago this product would have been of a known quality. Not saying anything about buzz specifically.

i really never want to be an early adopter anymore. I need 6 months of vetting to determine if it's the flavor of the week (or flavor of the DAY)

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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That screenshot is some Lynchian horror. "#engineering. New direction, team – we're moving the prototype to Flutter" and then the humans and agent bots engage in flirty emoji-filled chats with cutesy names "I nailed the physics, UI shell @Honeybot?" I'm trying to imagine a world in which this makes sense as a way to organize software development work, but coming up short. It's on a blockchain or something though, so…

Maybe it's just me, but when I was younger one reason that got me into AI research was the idea that one day we would have these seemingly intelligent entities that we could talk to and interact with just like we do with humans. Now that we have that, everybody hates it. Except me. I still like this. There might still be room for improvement, yes, but I think this is a cool attempt to making AI agents part of the tea…

> these seemingly intelligent entities that we could talk to and interact with just like we do with humans.

> Now that we have that, everybody hates it.

There are several reasons for it, most of them having to do with looking beyond what’s right in front of your nose. For many people, we don’t “have that”, LLMs are not comparable to interactions with humans. Then there’s all the shit around it such as the further consolidation of power in the hands of a few who really shouldn’t have it, the destruction of livelihoods, the increase in disinformation and propaganda, unhealthy habits and depression, and on and on.

Too many of these conversations focus only on the technology and completely ignore the context in which it exists. That lack of human perspective is a major reason why Hacker News is made fun of and dismissed relentlessly on other places on the internet (called “the orange site”), and everyone here is (wrongly) lumped as being a bunch of out-of-touch selfish nerds.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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post #60

That screenshot is some Lynchian horror. "#engineering. New direction, team – we're moving the prototype to Flutter" and then the humans and agent bots engage in flirty emoji-filled chats with cutesy names "I nailed the physics, UI shell @Honeybot?" I'm trying to imagine a world in which this makes sense as a way to organize software development work, but coming up short. It's on a blockchain or something though, so…

I have a premonition of future programming despair, and I wonder if it'll be like what Ian McKellen felt: A veteran of Shakespearean plays, doing all those [correction, not LoTR] The Hobbit green-screen shots interacting with no real person... __________ > McKellen said: "I felt pretty miserable … and thought perhaps, has the time come for me to stop acting altogether if I can't cope with these difficulties?" [...] >…

Moment of the breakdown (I couldn’t find a less shitty video).

https://youtu.be/CtYEm21Fhpo?t=79

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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> I've built two multi-million dollar businesses this year. Elaborate? Legitimately curious

Might be related to https://github.com/storytold/artcraft , they posted it a while ago. I can imagine there's demand for quick storyboarding in the filmmaking / content creation world. That said, turning a tool into a profitable business is another story entirely; if one person can turn an idea into working software with the help of AI, dozens more can too. So I'm also curious, not just from idea to software, but fro…

People have gone down this road of selling niche tools many times in the past in film making. There are a lot of pitfalls.

For starters not many people need story boarding.

When someone is actually doing a project that is big enough to need story boarding, they are going to have some infrastructure and making a wrapper around prompting image generation is not going to be far fetched.

The narrow window of productions that are doing story boarding but think they need a tool to wrap image generation and have no one to script some tools themselves is pretty small.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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That screenshot is some Lynchian horror. "#engineering. New direction, team – we're moving the prototype to Flutter" and then the humans and agent bots engage in flirty emoji-filled chats with cutesy names "I nailed the physics, UI shell @Honeybot?" I'm trying to imagine a world in which this makes sense as a way to organize software development work, but coming up short. It's on a blockchain or something though, so…

Maybe it's just me, but when I was younger one reason that got me into AI research was the idea that one day we would have these seemingly intelligent entities that we could talk to and interact with just like we do with humans. Now that we have that, everybody hates it. Except me. I still like this. There might still be room for improvement, yes, but I think this is a cool attempt to making AI agents part of the tea…

>I think what could help make this better is investing into giving agents actual personality, instead of them being just sycophantic clones of each other. AI agents as team members should have clear aspects of distinction both in their abilities and behaviors.

A language interface doesn't need a personality any more than a visual interface does. For most professional work, source data isn't written in the first person. Ego is an imposed product feature that wastes energy. What would the purpose of diverse personalities be? I want models as tools, not friends.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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I find this thought process somewhat faulty given that the vast majority of software ends up in that spot regardless. Hard to take this as that big a deal when Google literally launched a product along similar social themes named "Google Buzz" which lasted all of like 16 months in 2010, well before agents and llms. Either the project will find a fit, or it won't - and code quality doesn't have all that much to do wit…

Argument similar to: people still get hurt riding a skate without a helmet, why do I need it anyway?

If you can point me at any actual data that Saas companies are more like to be abandonware if AI is used... sure.

But my experience with startups is that the odds are great they're ALL going to be abandonware in a couple years.

Ex - 50% of every company started is out of business in 5 years.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's just me, but when I was younger one reason that got me into AI research was the idea that one day we would have these seemingly intelligent entities that we could talk to and interact with just like we do with humans. Now that we have that, everybody hates it. Except me. I still like this. There might still be room for improvement, yes, but I think this is a cool attempt to making AI agents part of the tea…

I've been at my current company for just over three years. I manage a small team of developers at a medium-sized consultancy, building internal tooling for our data analysts. One of my junior developers started the same day I did; we went through on boarding together. He's in his mid 20s, this is his second job post-college, after having an abysmal experience entering the workforce during COVID. He's had some struggl…

I'm currently new to northern virginia, a software dev. You sound like a great mentor and I would love to meet you for coffee sometime.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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[I work for Slack, opinions very much my own] Having agents see everything you and your colleagues see is cool. The challenge comes when you want to make certain things private to certain people. In that world you don’t want multiplayer agents leaking data, so you end up having to write and maintain complex rulesets about what specific resources agents have access to. Single-player agents, on the other hand, are much…

Private groups are the worst thing in a truly collaborative environment. Would be nice in Slack to have a Publish this whole freaking thread to a public channel button.

Having every inconsequential discussion on public channels is what really lower the signal to noise ratio of messages on Slack nowadays. I am starting to revert back to email now because at least the signal to noise ratio there is much higher.

Re: Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

#350

Jack still trying to make Nostr relevant in 2026

Nostr is a good protocol but Jack (i hope you read this) the real power comes from simplicity.

I assume Jack has money. I do not understand why building a product is the goal when the platform is where the communication transformation is needed.

nostr needs a type of simple dns for keys. Jack would understand.

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