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AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Post by seabrookmx »

dist-epoch wrote: post #9
etiennebausson wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a gaming chip, literally a lower-cost downgrade of an AI chip meant for gamers instead of AI. Why would it benchmarked for AI in these circumstances? Beside, the second page look like those unnecessary AI benchmark to me. I wouldn't recognise such for certain or be aible to estimate their quality, but it's what their summary say.

It's not a gaming chip, it's a desktop CPU chip. Imagine thinking that all people use PCs for is games...

X3D is marketed as a gaming feature and benchmarks bear that out. Productivity workloads (video editing, compiling code, etc) benefit very little from the extra cache. You're better off buying a chip without it and a higher core count.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Post by rjsw »

embedding-shape wrote: post #34
hayleyest wrote: post #31

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I assumed a 2 hour drive and used an app that told me population within each zip in a 2 hour drive (the furthest I've driven for one, I drove it 3 times, and every time it felt worth it due to the savings on full builds), and excluded overlaps as best I could. I started at the top, and got through 10 of them before I hit 30% of the US population. There are many to go. MC knows where to put their stores. If you feel t…

> If you feel this is a worthy debate point, define your criteria better Not really, was just curious to see a very US-specific tip when most of the population doesn't even live in the US, hence the "at best 3-4%" figure :)

Other countries have computer shops too.

The one where I bought the components for my current desktop has those CPUs listed, the 7800X3D is only £5 more than the 7700X3D.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Post by tedd4u »

Consider the 7600x3d also if you're in the market for something like this. It has a slightly higher base and boost clock, and half the TDP. It's 6 cores instead of of 8 but if you're building a gaming machine that may not make a big difference. If you're putting it in a small form factor the lower TDP might be helpful.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Post by drbscl »

dist-epoch wrote: post #9
etiennebausson wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a gaming chip, literally a lower-cost downgrade of an AI chip meant for gamers instead of AI. Why would it benchmarked for AI in these circumstances? Beside, the second page look like those unnecessary AI benchmark to me. I wouldn't recognise such for certain or be aible to estimate their quality, but it's what their summary say.

It's not a gaming chip, it's a desktop CPU chip. Imagine thinking that all people use PCs for is games...

I'm usually one to say the same thing, but unless you're doing something that specifically hits instruction cache hard, for most productivity workloads (compiling, video editing, etc) you're better off foregoing the cache and getting a CPU with more threads.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Post by DiabloD3 »

reassess_blind wrote: post #19

It’s a shame Windows is still so far ahead for game compatibility. Feels a shame to pair such a nice CPU with such a bloated OS.

A lot of games no longer run properly in Windows, and the only way to keep playing them is with Wine/Proton.

Windows performance is also often worse than Wine/Proton's.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Post by rbanffy »

winrid wrote: post #39
reassess_blind wrote: post #19

It’s a shame Windows is still so far ahead for game compatibility. Feels a shame to pair such a nice CPU with such a bloated OS.

Win10 iot ent runs on even 3rd gen i3s very well...

Not sure whether games will run well on it.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Post by AuthAuth »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #45
reassess_blind wrote: post #19

It’s a shame Windows is still so far ahead for game compatibility. Feels a shame to pair such a nice CPU with such a bloated OS.

A lot of games no longer run properly in Windows, and the only way to keep playing them is with Wine/Proton. Windows performance is also often worse than Wine/Proton's.

As a linux gamer and enjoyer of windows v linux benchmarks you cant say windows is often worse thats just a straight out lie. Rarely is proton "better" than windows. Proton is usually about 10% less avg fps than windows. Its is closer in 1% lows and wins more often there.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Post by DiabloD3 »

AuthAuth wrote: post #47
DiabloD3 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of games no longer run properly in Windows, and the only way to keep playing them is with Wine/Proton. Windows performance is also often worse than Wine/Proton's.

As a linux gamer and enjoyer of windows v linux benchmarks you cant say windows is often worse thats just a straight out lie. Rarely is proton "better" than windows. Proton is usually about 10% less avg fps than windows. Its is closer in 1% lows and wins more often there.

What GPU? Its usually Nvidia owners that complain about lackluster Wine/Proton performance.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Post by AuthAuth »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #48
AuthAuth wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a linux gamer and enjoyer of windows v linux benchmarks you cant say windows is often worse thats just a straight out lie. Rarely is proton "better" than windows. Proton is usually about 10% less avg fps than windows. Its is closer in 1% lows and wins more often there.

What GPU? Its usually Nvidia owners that complain about lackluster Wine/Proton performance.

AMD, Nvida and intel I watch benchmarks for all GPUs. AMDs are the closest to their windows counterpart but its still around 10% roughly speaking. Keep in mind this is without ray tracing. If thats enabled linux is like 30% worse.

Nvidia is getting better I think they merged something recently that will help their vulkan pref match windows.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Post by Scroll_Swe »

MrVitaliy wrote: post #37
Scroll_Swe wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that is what people play... The quantity does not matter, the quality does.

What people? Very few top games on Steam require kernel-level anti-cheat -- https://steamdb.info/charts/

Valorant

CoD

Unsure of Blizzard games

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