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Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by skydhash »

tassadarforaiur wrote: post #19

I don't care about any of reddits social features anymore, I logged out a long time ago, but where do we go now for the knowledge base of old reddit how to questions / recommendations / guides? Good forums with trustworthy guides are hard to find for niches you're newly learning about. Discord is it's own problem. I haven't explored mastodon / blue sky / etc. in a while. Do we have to find an old dump of reddit html,…

I spent my whole childhood without computers and a good chunk of my teenage years without stable internet connection. Now, I have both, but due to the state of the internet, I'm returning to my old routine: A load of books to learn from and hopefully finding some time to apply the knowledge.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by antihipocrat »

uhhhhwhaaaa wrote: post #37
felooboolooomba wrote: post #13

Meta has spent $2B on verification lobbying. Very successfully it seems. In 1-2 years, you won't be able to browse the internet without scanning a body part and providing a ID for your ass. https://www.gadgetreview.com/reddit-user-uncovers-who-is-beh...

I would view a website that requires users to go through a lengthy verification process. Given all the astroturfing from companies and governments, this would give a bit of trust.

Would it? Or would it just open up another revenue stream for websites? Verified corporate accounts sure, but with prices set per number of usernames per account, billed monthly.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by rjh29 »

LaurensBER wrote: post #17

For users, Reddit has been in a downwards spiral since the IPO. It's pretty clear that their focus is no longer on providing the best communities (see the many examples of power hungry mods, see below) or the best UX (see the deprecation of the API or the recent changes to old.reddit.com described in the post). The "product" is now selling data to LLM companies, everything else is clearly a secondary concern. It's a…

You can still enjoy Reddit and it's still a useful source of information. Just avoid the popular subs (including those you mention) or anything with 100k users or more. It's not difficult.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by account42 »

Klonoar wrote: post #63
account42 wrote: post #28

I noticed they logged me out when I happened on a link recently. I don't think this change will make me log back in. The value of the site has already crashed, now the only question is which site will manage to capture the mainstream link/image discussion next. > This is because appending site: reddit.com to a search query is basically a surefire way to find results written by genuine humans. This hasn't been true fo…

Reddit has almost 20 years of comments. You could certainly argue that it's less true now that there's legitimate people commenting, but there are years old threads on there with very helpful and valuable information that you can only really find via some incantations of Google search.

Have you ever looked at an old reddit comment thread.

  + Hey how do you do thing?
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  -+ [deleted]
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   -+ Thanks, that's just what I needed.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by fidotron »

pwndByDeath wrote: post #61

I've not been a fan of Reddit in a while, but I do appreciate a useful asynchronous human interaction. I think reddit lost the useful humans a few bad ideas ago but I'm not well versed in that drama. I'm curious what HN minds would consider a useful fix to this cyborg Internet problem. It seems having humans and bots coexisting is problematic. If you had to start over knowing what could happened and what we should av…

The problem isn't "Is this human or AI?" it's "Do we trust the entity with this identity or not?" meaning it's entirely possible to be anonymous but use a web-of-trust style system to promote/demote stories.

Part of the problem with that suggestion is everyone likes to tell everyone else who it is they should and shouldn't be trusting, so that dataset and acting on it would become a huge hot potato.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by Gareth321 »

jdw64 wrote: post #53
Gareth321 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloudflare recently reported that the majority of internet traffic is bots now. It wouldn't surprise me if the vast majority of traffic and comments on Reddit is now bots. Those organic conversations you're having? Bots. Those arguments with annoying people? Bots. All those positive comments and stories about the latest product/movie/politician/party/company/country? Bots. The entire front page is most likely owned a…

I think it's not so much a problem with social media itself, but rather a phenomenon that occurs when consumption points converge. Anger is great for grabbing attention, and for newcomers trying to get noticed at a converged consumption point, generating anger or outrage is just the easiest way. At first I thought it might be a problem with social media, but it seems more like a problem that arises when groups conver…

What a lovely idea. Maybe I should try this.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by Gareth321 »

inigyou wrote: post #48
Gareth321 wrote: post #27

I don't mind logging in, but when they remove old.reddit altogether, I'm just going to stop using Reddit. The new interface is the slimiest culmination of all the worst dark patterns and manipulative algorithms. I gave up on Facebook and I'll give up on Reddit. I have so many games and books and magazines to consume which I just don't because of this awful habit of picking up my phone to doom scroll. In fact, bring i…

They're requiring "age" verification via Persona on old.reddit now for some accounts.

That would be a hard no for me.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by NordStreamYacht »

IrishTechie wrote: post #16
msny wrote: post #6

I only used old.reddit, it's a sad day as I say goodbye to reddit because the new layout is terrible and since they killed open reddit clients there is no alternative.

You can still use old.reddit, you just need to be logged in. That said, if old.reddit ever went away altogether I would stop using it too.

I'm able to browse old.reddit.com without logging in right now.

Maybe it's for specific subs?

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by wraptile »

LaurensBER wrote: post #17

For users, Reddit has been in a downwards spiral since the IPO. It's pretty clear that their focus is no longer on providing the best communities (see the many examples of power hungry mods, see below) or the best UX (see the deprecation of the API or the recent changes to old.reddit.com described in the post). The "product" is now selling data to LLM companies, everything else is clearly a secondary concern. It's a…

> For users, Reddit has been in a downwards spiral since the IPO.

I'd argue since redesign that introduced old.reddit

> to give some examples of mod abuse

You're barely scratching the surface. Many subreddits are directly astroturfed and sold out. The most clear indicator is when a subreddit links to alternative communication platform like Discord - it's there to signal that mods are selling out. This is particularly noticable in any entrepreneur/saas based subreddit.

Other subreddits like /r/worldnews are clearly propaganda operations.

All of these are solvable problems but Reddit simple has no one left who'd care to solve them.

I suggest decentralized Fediverse alternatives like Lemmy https://lemmy.world/ as Reddit will never get better.

Re: So Reddit has decided that plain HTML is unsafe

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Post by jdw64 »

Gareth321 wrote: post #76
jdw64 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's not so much a problem with social media itself, but rather a phenomenon that occurs when consumption points converge. Anger is great for grabbing attention, and for newcomers trying to get noticed at a converged consumption point, generating anger or outrage is just the easiest way. At first I thought it might be a problem with social media, but it seems more like a problem that arises when groups conver…

What a lovely idea. Maybe I should try this.

Personally, if you need a moderate level of connection, there's something called the IndieWeb. Of course, sometimes you just need your own world without any connection at all.

Either way, I think creating your own digital garden is a valid approach. Thanks for agreeing with me, and have a good day :)

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