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AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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It’s a shame Windows is still so far ahead for game compatibility. Feels a shame to pair such a nice CPU with such a bloated OS.

"Far ahead"? DRM'ed spyware, yes.

Everything else? Not so much, thanks to the monumental effort of Wine and Proton projects.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Actually it would be very interesting to know how it performs for AI and whether it has a better value.

I understand where you are coming from. But as a gamer who hasn't been able to make a significant upgrade to my rig in 6 years due to memory price and redirected processor engineering funding (all of it due to AI), it really bother me.

Weren’t the prices normal until about a year ago?

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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A shame the x3d cache parts lack integrated GPUs. The extra cache could be handy for inference with smaller models.

I wonder what perf. this cpu can get in bit/ternary inference, and whether the 512AVX units(or whats it's called on AMD), get throttled.

I’ve heard that AMD chips generate a ton of heat with AVX512 operations, overclockers turn off the instruction set for more stability.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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A shame the x3d cache parts lack integrated GPUs. The extra cache could be handy for inference with smaller models.

Caches take die space. GPU takes die space.

People buying gaming CPUs tend to not really want iGPU taking away thermals, so it makes kinda sense?

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

#25

It’s a shame Windows is still so far ahead for game compatibility. Feels a shame to pair such a nice CPU with such a bloated OS.

"Far ahead"? DRM'ed spyware, yes. Everything else? Not so much, thanks to the monumental effort of Wine and Proton projects.

If you play AAA games with kernel anti-cheat then Wine and Proton are basically non-starters. Cant sidestep that a vast majority of people want to play those games.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Already down to $280 https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/1uz0grn/cpu_... Honestly (apart from the general hardware parts pricing crisis) the problem is that you can get the 7800X3D for almost the same price or just slightly more. Especially if you have a Micro Center nearby you. But it's not bad if you can find a good combo deal with a mobo and RAM, https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=4812%204019%204020%204021&…

> Especially if you have a Micro Center nearby you Do they have stores in every state? Even assuming they have, seems fair to assume maybe just 3-4% of people actually have a Micro Center close enough to visit, oddly specific tip :p

It’s standard practice on the internet when talking about building PCs to mention Micro Center. Either “it’s cheaper if you have a microcenter nearby” or “this same bundle is $50 cheaper at micro center”.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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A shame the x3d cache parts lack integrated GPUs. The extra cache could be handy for inference with smaller models.

Caches take die space. GPU takes die space. People buying gaming CPUs tend to not really want iGPU taking away thermals, so it makes kinda sense?

X3D cache doesn't take die space in traditional sense: it is a separate silicon packaged by stacking.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Far ahead"? DRM'ed spyware, yes. Everything else? Not so much, thanks to the monumental effort of Wine and Proton projects.

If you play AAA games with kernel anti-cheat then Wine and Proton are basically non-starters. Cant sidestep that a vast majority of people want to play those games.

"Kernel anti-cheat" and "spyware" is exactly what i mean. Thry do have millions of players. But that's like 20-30 games out of 1000s that run just fine.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Far ahead"? DRM'ed spyware, yes. Everything else? Not so much, thanks to the monumental effort of Wine and Proton projects.

If you play AAA games with kernel anti-cheat then Wine and Proton are basically non-starters. Cant sidestep that a vast majority of people want to play those games.

> If you play AAA games with kernel anti-cheat then Wine and Proton are basically non-starters.

Kernel-level spyware, and Wine/Proton are the non-starters?

I don't think you and the person you replied to will reach an agreement.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X3D Review: 3D V-Cache Gaming Performance for Less

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Far ahead"? DRM'ed spyware, yes. Everything else? Not so much, thanks to the monumental effort of Wine and Proton projects.

If you play AAA games with kernel anti-cheat then Wine and Proton are basically non-starters. Cant sidestep that a vast majority of people want to play those games.

Let's rephrase that statement. My game probably works fine on linux and if it doesn't there is an active community read to support it BUT the person, I purchased this game from said no.
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